Team 2 takes this Palpatine is already the strongest sith ever by this time. And Mace was nearly able to kill him, not to mention his shatterpoint and vapaad will come in handy when fighting. Mace by himself is probaly stronger then ulic. He can at the very least give Revan a run for his money.
The RotS novelization confirms that Yoda was the 'most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known' until Luke came along. Like it or not, that puts Yoda above any incarnation of Revan. Sidious is Yoda's equal, so he would naturally be stronger than Revan as well. This will be difficult, however, but Sidious and Mace should win.
shut your pie hole Noobaris, everything canon you don't agree with is "debatable". I'm a Revan fanboy and even I can accept canon fact. This why you're a tool.
Yoda's POV is not a canon fact you dumb ****. He's fallible, and subject to being wrong. He quite clearly is in this case, how the hell is he supposed to know that he's the most powerful for the darkness has ever faced? Does he even know who Revan is?
I’m not saying that quotes can’t support an argument, but one quote doesn’t make an argument - especially when it’s coming from a novelization, a source which contradicts the movies (and consequently, the head honcho Lucas) on numerous occasions. There should be several facts consistently showing that Yoda is beyond Revan, not one source which on numerous occasions displayed its fallibility and rather jaded depiction of events transpiring in ROTS.
I don’t doubt that Yoda’s powerful, but can he really match a Jedi/Sith that while amnesiatic was able to counter a Sith Lord on the level of Dooku absorbing an entire race of above average force users (and technology)? Even Bane who has shown more than Yoda feared Revan, and the former was capable of “nudging” objects several hundreds of thousands of kilograms in mass.
In arguendo, assuming that the quote was true - which I simply can’t accept based on Yoda’s rather lackluster feats according to the supreme canon source and the novelization's reputation for contradicting movie details- how are you coming to the conclusion that Yoda is hands down Revan’s superior? Are you basing this on how Malak calls Revan stronger as a Jedi than he was as a Sith? If so, that would be Malak’s fallible opinion - bear in mind Chronicles states Malak didn’t even know everything Revan knew when the latter was the dark lord of the Sith. As you can see, I would honestly question whether Malak knew what the hell he was talking about.
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Revan was so strong and skilled that he single-handedly easily killed two powerful Terentatek beasts in the Tomb of Naga Sadow in a single combat. And it is a well established fact that Terentateks are dubbed as Jedi slayers or killers and feast on the blood of Force sensitives. This feat alone speaks volumes about his capabilities.
Apart from this, what he accomplished in that huge battle of Star Forge was amazing and he was declared as the "The Prodigal Knight" by a famous Jedi Master of his age, for such an achievement.
Revan will give ROTS Sidious a very hard and long fight, which can go either way or result in a stalemate situation.
The duel between Ulic Qel Droma and Mace Windu however will actually decide the fate of this battle.
I think that Mace is possibly better then Ulic. Thus in my opinion, Team 2 has a slightly better chance for gaining victory in this fight.
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