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Buddha + jesus = Same person

I was just reading Joseph Campbells "Hero with a Thousand Faces" and i noticed that the stories for the Buddha and Jesus CXhrist are basically the same. Does this mean that the religions were somewhat influenced by one another? Or could it possibly mean that the same force that created Jesus, also created Buddha.


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I was just reading Joseph Campbells "Hero with a Thousand Faces" and i noticed that the stories for the Buddha and Jesus CXhrist are basically the same. Does this mean that the religions were somewhat influenced by one another? Or could it possibly mean that the same force that created Jesus, also created Buddha.


I believe;

Jesus left home and traveled to Tibet, and learned the teachings of Buddha. He then returned home the try and free his people from the Romans.


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I've seen a Jesus/Buddha statues....many Christians get very very offended by even the thought of it.....

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many christians get offended of people thinking

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Re: Buddha + jesus = Same person

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I was just reading Joseph Campbells "Hero with a Thousand Faces" and i noticed that the stories for the Buddha and Jesus CXhrist are basically the same. Does this mean that the religions were somewhat influenced by one another? Or could it possibly mean that the same force that created Jesus, also created Buddha.


They donīt need to be necessarily the same person, as Siddharta Gautama(Buddha) lived at 500 B.C., and Jesus 0 B.C, or it would be 0 A.C blink .... anyway I believe they represent the same thing, christ in orient is what is called boddhisattva, or sometimes Lord Maytreya, like Siddharta was, Krishna was...

Here is something interesting :

Chrestos (Greek), applied by the Greeks as a title of respect equivalent to "the worthy." Chrestes meant an interpreter of oracles. These usages were taken over by the Gnostic schools of Greek, and Jew out of which Christianity largely sprang, and there is abundant evidence to be found among the early Christian writers and the Gnostics themselves that the adherents originally called themselves Chrestians.

I seems that the word christ have PAGAN Greek origins...


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Here is something interesting :

Chrestos (Greek), applied by the Greeks as a title of respect equivalent to "the worthy." Chrestes meant an interpreter of oracles. These usages were taken over by the Gnostic schools of Greek, and Jew out of which Christianity largely sprang, and there is abundant evidence to be found among the early Christian writers and the Gnostics themselves that the adherents originally called themselves Chrestians.

I seems that the word christ have PAGAN Greek origins...


Chrestes was a very popular word for "Good doer" kind of thing in Rome during the time of Paul.

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Chrestes was a very popular word for "Good doer" kind of thing in Rome during the time of Paul.


It is logical since Roman culture was greatly influenced by the Greeks.


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They donīt need to be necessarily the same person, as Siddharta Gautama(Buddha) lived at 500 B.C., and Jesus 0 B.C, or it would be 0 A.C blink .... anyway I believe they represent the same thing, christ in orient is what is called boddhisattva, or sometimes Lord Maytreya, like Siddharta was, Krishna was...


I believe;

The Buddha entity is an entity that has reached full growth and does not need to return to this world. But this entity returns anyway, to help all of the other entities make it to this point of awareness. Shakyamuni (Buddha) was the incarnation of this entity and so was Jesus.


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I don't see a lot of resemblence other than if your talking about the Gnostic Jesus.


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I don't see a lot of resemblence other than if your talking about the Gnostic Jesus.


I am sorry, but I don't know the difference between normal Jesus and Gnostic Jesus.

All incarnations are unique and individual, it is the guiding entity that is the same.

This may not make sense to you, if you do not understand what I believe about incarnations. Most people think of reincarnation as "my life, my past life, my future life", I believe this way; I am here now and one day I will die, my life has a beginning and an end. I am the incarnation of my entity, my entity is not my soul. I am a flower on the tree which is my entity. My entity has many flowers, each one with it's own beauty (life). My entity grows by living lives here, and I am just a part of my entity's growth. I share all the karma, of all of the flowers on the tree that is my entity.


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I believe;

The Buddha entity is an entity that has reached full growth and does not need to return to this world. But this entity returns anyway, to help all of the other entities make it to this point of awareness. Shakyamuni (Buddha) was the incarnation of this entity and so was Jesus.


I've heard that...I've also heard that it's like Masters that have ascended, but some return to help the rest...kinda point the way...Some think Jesus was such a person.

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I believe;

The Buddha entity is an entity that has reached full growth and does not need to return to this world. But this entity returns anyway, to help all of the other entities make it to this point of awareness. Shakyamuni (Buddha) was the incarnation of this entity and so was Jesus.


I know what you mean, thats the way I believe they could be the same, but not the same person I mean. Christos is the one who comes to enlighten the mankind, thats the same thing as boddhisattva, a being who reached full-growth, or is near it, and came back to enlighten the others, like you said.


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I don't see a lot of resemblence other than if your talking about the Gnostic Jesus.


I think the gnostic Jesus is a better source since Christianity came from the gnostics.

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I've heard that...I've also heard that it's like Masters that have ascended, but some return to help the rest...kinda point the way...Some think Jesus was such a person.


Ascended Masters !? Like Saint Germain ? Yeah... I heard about them too, in fact I was of one of the "religions"(but they donīt call themselves a religion) that believes in them, its called "I AM Activity". Saint Germain is to them what Jesus is to christians.


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Had I not done a lot of study on Jesus and the whole mythos surronding him I probably would have belived it,but as of now I just can't.


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The Correct Title would be Jesus = Buddha...since Jesus + Buddha = Same Person either means that Jesus and Buddha together are something called "Same Person" or theat one of them equals 0 so that adding hi to the other would not change anything...therefore it would be the same person.....


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It would make since if jesus went to tibet. Isn't there a twenty year gap in the jesus story?

Besides this, if any of you have read Joseph Campells books, what do you guys think of his ideas?


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I've read some interesting theories about Jesus going to Tibet,but it makes more sense that Jesus never exisited,or at least in a historical context.


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I've read some interesting theories about Jesus going to Tibet,but it makes more sense that Jesus never exisited,or at least in a historical context.


Yeah, thats something that would explain things like many very specific similarities in things that Jesus did that are interpreted in a symbolic way that coincide exatly with other teachings in other places. I mean why everything he does should have a meaning, there are many things he did the exact same way other mythical figures did, it will be extreme coincidence. It will be much easier to explain those things if he was a mythologic character too, based on those other characters.
In the other hand, I say there is some facts that are difficult to ignore, and to say that evreything was inveted is hard to believe, but there is the possibility that maybe those similarities that make Jesus seems irreal could be intentional. He could have actually made some of what he did, because he wanted people to think of him like being the messiah. It could be like marketing, and Jesus was intelligent for what I know.


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It would make since if jesus went to tibet. Isn't there a twenty year gap in the jesus story?

Besides this, if any of you have read Joseph Campells books, what do you guys think of his ideas?


Yes there is a gap....and the years could be filled in...

http://www.tombofjesus.com/news/FAQ/

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I was just reading Joseph Campbells "Hero with a Thousand Faces" and i noticed that the stories for the Buddha and Jesus CXhrist are basically the same. Does this mean that the religions were somewhat influenced by one another? Or could it possibly mean that the same force that created Jesus, also created Buddha.


Buddha died 483 years before Jesus was born. Therefore, it is possible that Buddhism may have influenced Christianity, but not for Christianity to have influenced Buddhism. Moreover, the only conceiveable way Buddha and Jesus could be the same person is if Buddha was reincarnated as Jesus.


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