In a number of wallpapers, Atris is depicted as fighting off Nihilus, and i wonder why that Nihilus's technique wouldnt affect her, says something about Nihilus
However i still believe Nihilus was a better swordsman and a more powerful force user
I have that wallpaper, and it's just made for show anyway. Atris is supposed to represent the light in KOTOR 2 and Nihilus the dark, so they put those two in a wall paper fighting. And on it, Atris swings all she got and Nihilus doesen't seem to put any effort in his block, he toys with her.
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Well I'm going to be odd and say Atris, she could sever his connection to the force... Ah HA! and then she'd beat him with her lightsaber like a red headed stepchild that he is. Or more likely she would know to kill Visas as she is a Jedi Librarian, as Kreia says she was once like her...so if she worked it out I'd bet that Atris could too. Also she does have the added advantage of knowing a lot about both the Jedi and the Sith...she a very knowledgeable woman. Also she does have a temple of sisters to call on for aid, not forces users no but still weight of numbers and tatical thinking, I think could win her the day if it came to push vs shuv. It would be a long shot, but she 'could' do it.
Last edited by madjim1 on Jun 13th, 2006 at 03:25 PM
Not really. Where is the proof that Atris could strip people from the force? Last time it required the power of all three jedi masters to even begin the process... Also, Nihilus just sucks the force out of her, even if she pulls a force attack of it will be drained by Nihilus. When Nihilus is not weakened he is also very strong, he could (when not even raising a hand or looking at them) stun the Exile, Visas and Mandalore, and still he hadn't eaten for a long time there. Even when he was weakened he proved a hard match for them, Visas even lost hope for them to ever defeate him but the Exile kept her hope up.... The Exile alone kicked Atris ass....
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I don't remember where it said that he could drain force attacks, probably it was Janus, Fishy and the others who said he could. But it doesn't matter, Atris is dead...
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Well yes but that’s because it was scripted as such. When you start topics like this you have to think out side of what the story line actually was, use some imagination. If you stuck ridged to how it went down in the game then of course he'd kill her wtf is the point in the tread if that’s your reasoning for him winning LMAO.
From a SW d20 RPG system any Jedi can try to sever someone from the force...if your trained in the power then you can use it to much more effect and there for Atris must be able to do such because she would have helped do it if she'd turned up for the meeting (and your the dark side exile that is)...but true she'd probably have a hard time doing it to Nihilus, but it could be done. The power only has an effect on Dark side users people tainted with it's power the more powerful you are with the dark side the more effective it is...if successful.
Also Nihilus is consumed by the dark side he is arrogant and full of himself...in fact he believes himself to be invincible...like the Emperor that is his biggest weakness and why the Exile kills him in the game, with the aid of Vasis.
Atris is a Jedi Master and a cleaver and cunning one at that. She wouldn't fight him toe to toe unless she was left with no other option, she'd lose just like the exile would (if you didn't have Vasis with you), saying that she counts on the exile to do the job for her...so lol, you see my point. I mean if you had say Atris, Vasis and the Exile up against him you’re talking about his ass being handed to him. I hate the fact you have to take mandalor he's a prat. 3 Jedi Masters (all with sith backgrounds) would do the job.
Last edited by madjim1 on Jun 13th, 2006 at 04:17 PM
In fact thinking about it Vasis would be the only one who would have any hope of killing her one time master in singel combat, but even that would be a long shot really. To be honest at the end of the day I thought the NPC Nihilus to be a really crap one but thats just me, I was so glad when I found out he wasn't the end Boss, but then I was a big fan of the first game, Reven would kick any Sith lords butt lol. but getting off topic sorry.
Last edited by madjim1 on Jun 13th, 2006 at 04:24 PM
Ok first of all, what are you talking about? I don't get what your trying to say at the first point, at all.....
What? Are you saying that because you THINK she would have helped the jedi masters at the meeting to strip the uncanon dark jedi exile from the force, she can? They were 3 after all, still took a heck of a long time. And since the jedi Exile is lightside he allowed them to do it...
Nihilus is arrogant mabey, but he is more hungry than arrogant. He would eat her the moment the battle begun to still his hunger. Arrogance is not the reason he lost to the Exile, it was his consuming hunger for the Exile. He drained him and became weak, weak enough to be defeated by the best of the mandalorians, the last and very powerful jedi Exile (who on his own defeated Atris) and his old apprentice Visas Marr. He was still a challenge to them though...
Well to bad she hasn't got any other choice. This is not Atris at the other side of the galaxy with a plan to destroy Nihilus, this is Atris versus Nihilus in a pure fight....
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Also as a point Nihilus used to take orders from Darth Traya, till she was turned on by two of them showing that he couldn't have been all powerful, if it tock the two of them to take her down. His power to drain the living force I think take time and concentartion it's not something he can do by clicking his fingers.
No you missed the point in the story didn’t you? The Exile cut himself from the force you Muppet, when he felt all the death and hatred and destruction on Malicor IV it forced him/her to server themselves from the force. They already lost there connection before they even got to the trial. So when (if) you turn dark side for the second time then the Jedi masters try to strip you of the force, my point to say the Atis could sever the force in people is as follow and stated in my first post...
There is a Star Wars RPG game like dungeons and Dragons all official with Lucas, and they have the power sever force in it, any force user can use it. what I was trying to say if your going to wax intellectual about something like this you need to look out side of just the computer game it's self.
Last edited by madjim1 on Jun 13th, 2006 at 04:41 PM
Well to bad the Dark Side ending is un-canon, which means it never happened...
Are you going to take an RPG game over the whole Star Wars story? No one in the PT could strip others from the force, not any master could do it.... And that does not mean the others have to sit and wait for them to do it...
And what the hell does this has to do with the fight, you said yourself that Atris would never be able to go toe to toe with Nihilus, and now she has to so she has lost the fight, nothing else to debate.
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And it's Vasis that saves you from Nihilus using her connection to her master to ditract and disrupt him. Other wise the Exile would have been boned, thats why you have to take her with you.
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