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Qui-Gon is in pleace of Kenobi here as he jumps into that huge platform hideout area with droids everywhere. Grievous says he'll take care of this jedi slime himself.
How will this battle fare?
He gets killed by the droids. Grievous doesn't have to do any work.
Realistically, though, Grievous would kill Qui-Gon. He's a far better swordsman, and the only Force power Qui-Gon has demonstrated is a Force push. Which we've seen Grievous dodge before, and it also barely will do anything (Obi-Wan in ROTS).
Grievous wins. No doubts. I don't think I should write a new testament on the subject.
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Grievous wins. Qui-Gon applies use of Form IV, which is a very fancy form. Grievous can see the patterns of his opponent's attack, therefore while Qui-Gon can try, he will most certainly lose. Unless of course Qui-Gon learns Soresu and uses its simplicity, he dies a valiant death.
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This is a good match-up that I've often thought about, but I don't think Qui-Gon's style would be very good against Grievous, Grievous is faster, stronger and won't get tired so Qui-Gon's only chance is winning by using the Force, but I doubt he will get a chance as he will attack with his lightsaber firts and after that he won't get a chance to use the Force, he'll be to busy trying to stay alive. But if he were in the exact same position as Kenobi was he could probably win cause some Clones would help him if he started to lose.
Obi-Wan's Form III was very effective against Grievous's fancy attacks; he was able to use minimal movements to block multiple stricks and use very little energy. Ataru uses a lot of energy, and it's strong suit is not it's defense. I think that Qui-Gon could attack all he want's at Grievous, but in the end, despite Qui-Gon's skill with the lightsaber, he would be tired out and eventually beaten by Grievous
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grievous would. form IV is only good with fit and able people, like yoda. the form is suposed to let the user 'attack form all sides at once' or some crap like that. anyway, geivous wouls use the same start to the battle as he did with ROTS and then end it by slicing him in half from head to toe, decapitating him, and cutting his legs off... all before he hits the ground.
He gets killed by the droids. Grievous doesn't have to do any work.
Realistically, though, Grievous would kill Qui-Gon. He's a far better swordsman, and the only Force power Qui-Gon has demonstrated is a Force push. Which we've seen Grievous dodge before, and it also barely will do anything (Obi-Wan in ROTS).
Grievous wins. No doubts. I don't think I should write a new testament on the subject.
He's right after all Grievous had the battle droids kill Obi-Wan and Grievous managed to dodge Obi-Wan's force push.
Qui-Gon was said to be one of the best duelist in the Jedi Order. He'll blast Grievous back like Obi-Wan did. Qui-Gon would win.
True, he was one of the best duelists in the Order, but that was probably while he was in his prime. If he had chosen a lightsaber form that wouldn't be so taxing on his body, like Forms III or II, he might be able to win. However, Ataru would indeed tire him out, due to the jumps and the aggression, as can be seen in TPM
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Grievous can dodge force pushes, he just didn't see it coming with Obi.
And Qui-Gon has an 100% offensive style, which will not be very good against Grievous. Grievous stalemated LOE Mace (which is like ROTS Mace) in a sword battle, and only lost two arms against Obi because he was a Soresu master...
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I found it very weird how Grievous stalemated against Mace. I mean with his style how could the robot predict his moves?
Also I found it weird in Clone Wars cartoon that force blasts could be dodged. I mean aren't telekinetic attacks instant? Unless it was a blast of air or something...what do you think?
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I want to say Qui Gon, the facts point to Greivous, but one thing is bothering me. If Cin Drallig can do it, than I can definitely see Qui Gon doing it too... I'm not really sure.
First off all, it was sarcasm. Perhaps you've heard of it? Guessing not.
Oh yeah! I forgot Obi-Wan's awesome Force push which didn't do jack shit to Grievous! We've seen him dodge Ki-Adi-Mundi's Force push and Shaak Ti's Force push.
Nonetheless, when in the hell has a Force pushed inflicted pain upon a victim to the point that they'd lose? Oh? Never. Okay.
Guess what? So were Agen Kolar, Saesee Tinn, and Kit Fisto. Can they all beat Grievous?
Yeah, and after Grievous immediately lands on his feet. He slaughtered Qui-Gon. Damn newb.
How is a Force push going to help when we know Grievous' armor can withstand an explosion again? As for Jinn having Force powers, true - he does indeed have Force powers. Then again, so did Ki-Adi-Mundi, Adi Gallia, Master T'Chooka, and Shaak Ti, among all the other Jedi Grievous killed. The man dodged a Force push by Ki-Adi Mundi. And even when he was Force pushed by ROTS Obi-Wan, who's definitely stronger than Qui-Gon in the Force, he got up as it was nothing.
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Last edited by Advent on Aug 18th, 2006 at 05:14 PM
Do we know if Cin can beat him? No, it was Dooku's thoughts only. If Grievous can stalemate Mace I belive he can take down Cin....
And I agree with Advent. The force push wasn't what wounded Grievous and caused him to lose his lightsabers, it was the fact that he slammed into one of those machines hanging from the celing with his back....
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He stalemated Mace? I seem to remember Mace winning and knocking him off the hover train they were fighting on.
No, I don't think their instant.
Why? What makes you think Qui-Gon > Cin? Also, Cin probably knows Soresu and that may be the only reason Dooku thinks that Cin could beat Grievous (but that's a maybe).
But Cin can use Soresu and Grievous didn't stalemate Mace Mace beat him.
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