if a Spartan from Sparta's height in all his heavy armour with his nodding horse hair plume on his huge corinthian helmet, with his huge ****** shield, and his long spear and his leaf bladed Xiphos was to fight a Samurai from the Sengoku period is his Yorei armour and his huge helm and his Yari and Katana and Wakizashi on even ground at midday and they both were on foot who would win?
Well, perhaps 300 will prove me wrong, but I'm thinking the Samurai, who I feel is quicker and more flexible, and has a more powerful sword will be able to kill him.
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I'd say, while I'd root for the Spartan, the samurai would win. The reason is that Spartans, while strong and durable warriors, only fought in a phalanx formation. Greek soldiers never went into single combat. Their warfare basically consisted of pushing their shields against the other side's until their line was broken, all the while stabbing with your spear until it broke and you had to use your sword. Mobility also suffered greatly due to the weight of the armour and the way the helmet blocked their vision and dampened their hearing. Samurai, on the other hand, trained specifically for single combat, had quite mobile armour, and used easily maneuverable weapons. I hate to say it, but the Spartan's only chance would be to stab the samurai with his spear on his first try. Therefore, the samurai has the advantage.
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And Samurai never really "fought" either
Most Samurai "battles" only lasted a few seconds, were the two opponents would run at each other and do one or two slashes at critical points of the enemies body, defeating him. Samurai aren't traiend to fight in any prolonged engagement.
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So I guess it's really a question of who gets hit first. If that's the case then the Spartan would win, as they would sometimes throw their spears at the enemy.
Samurai, primarily because of the katana. A fine-edged steel long sword against bronze armor, and bronze swords ... sorry, but the Spartans would be disarmed in a hurry. Their shields were also wooden, with a plate of bronze laid on over it.
The samurai's weaponry alone would carry the day, as bronze weapons don't stand a chance against iron; let alone steel.
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Wow, it's amazing you completely missed the point of what I said.
Samurai could completely disarm a Spartan because of the fact they were using steel weaponry, which would make short work of the bronze that Spartans had. The bronze armor of the spartans wouldn't be able to take much abuse from the other samurai weaponry either, also because the difference in metals.
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Its stupid to take technology into account. Thats not what were judging here. In an equal fight, the side that appeared later in history whill almost always win. Its like pitting logbowmen against archers, or artillery vs catapults...
We're judging the content of the people here. Not who would win based on thier knowledge of alloys.
Read it again. He's specifically putting the weapons and armor into the equation. Which means, judging based on technology and the composition of their weapons is one of the things we're supposed to be doing.
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Now correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it technically impossible for someone to cut through bronze armour with a Katana , simply because the blade is too thin and you'd need more strength then your average Samurai has ?
In a single swipe, I'd be inclined to say yes. Though after repeated strikes, it'd probably start to crack and break. Though, the bronze weaponry would likely fall apart before the armor did.
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