Conditions: None of this sabers or Force only bullshit that's been running rampant around here. All opponents are expected to use whatever methods necessary to win.
I have to go with Mace and Sora. Ive always thought Mace could beat Dooku in a fight, but idk anything about Sora, so if she could just hold Ventress off till Mace can help i think they would win.
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I don't see Ventress beating Bulq. He was Dooku's second in the Confederacy for a reason. He was widely considered one of the best duelists in the galaxy, the saber instructor of the Jedi Temple, a Vaapad Master and the most powerful of the Dark Acolytes.
True, but she doesn't have the same backing as Sora. She's also got far more mainstream appeal to appear in stuff than Sora does...he's mainly kept to the comics and only a few of them at that, mostly where he stands around looking menacing at Dooku's side.
This is true. In the Clone Wars, Yoda makes Ventress run away without brushing a hand on his saber. He stopped her lightsabers with the force, relieved her of her sabers. Mace will dominate her in seconds with the force then Bulq and him will KO the Count.
EDIT: How does Mace "wreck" Dooku. Oh and if we replace Ventress with Shaak Ti, Team Dooku will win. Two Makashi Masters defeat the two Vaapad users
^Ventress stronger than Shaak, please. This is the Jedi Master regarded as one of the greaterswordbeigns by Mace and Yoda, manipulated a Dark Side oriented world into her personal *****, took on dozens of Magna Guards, who have been shown to KO Jedi. What has ventress done to match this. Shaak is a beast with the force, especially considering she is more powerful than Kazdan Paratus, who created armies of droids, and defeated legions of battle droids by himself. And you do have a point about Bulq. If Ventress pulls a victory from bulq the Sith take it. I'd say 5/5 both ways. Unless it is Shaak then Team Dooku wins
Provide the passage, please, and also keep in mind that Ventress thoroughly outclassed Obi-Wan Kenobi a year into the war immediately after defeating Kit Fisto, another one of your supposed “greatest swordbeings.”
Oh, and also prove that she was a master of Makashi, as you claimed earlier.
It wasn’t a “dark side” world, it was simply wild. Over the course of fifteen or sixteen years, she tamed it.
Databank:
Asajj's rage fueled her power, and she clawed her way up to a position of authority on the lawless world of Rattatak. She conquered and imprisoned most of the remaining warlords[…]
While she certainly didn’t affect the planet’s Force-alignment, the fact that she managed to conquer it even before being discovered by Dooku is very impressive.
In the CWC only. You really don’t want to go there when arguing against Ventress.
Where?
Ventress destroyed "legions" of Rattatak's deadliest gladiators in a single fell swoop, and basically slaughtered “legions” of clone troopers on Yavin, just before her "stunning" duel with Anakin. That fight had her hurling tree trunks, stone tiles, and pillars at Skywalker. He actually needed the surge provided by tapping into the dark side to defeat her in both of their battles. Throughout the Clone War, she was basically neck and neck with Kenobi and Skywalker, even better than the former at points.
She and Durge also massacred a team of five Jedi; the only survivor was Obi-Wan, and even then it was only because another dying Jedi Master transferred what was left of her power into him. By Dark Rendezvous, she had killed seventeen Jedi. The only individuals in her era to rack up this high a body count were General Grievous, the two-thousand year-old Durge, and the newly anointed Darth Vader.
Hell, that says a lot for Shaak Ti. Starkiller was, as I recall, a master of Juyo. So her proficiency was such that she was able to dominate him by a fair margin, though he is a "high end master of multiple forms."
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I hadn't thought about that side of things. I don't have the novel. Doesn't it depict her bladework being much faster than his (probably a consequence of her Makashi)?
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