KillerMovies - Movies That Matter!

REGISTER HERE TO JOIN IN! - It's easy and it's free!
Home » Community » General Discussion Forum » Actual Democracy in America?

Actual Democracy in America?
Started by: Liberator

Forum Jump:
Post New Thread    Post A Reply
  Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread
Liberator
Mums Gardener

Gender: Male
Location: United Kingdom

Actual Democracy in America?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm1o...feature=recentu

Chicago's 49th Ward is the first U.S. government to let the people make their own budget, following a practice begun in Porto Alegre, Brazil over twenty years ago.

It's got to start somewhere, do you think it'll spread?


__________________
"Every daring attempt to make a great change in existing conditions, every lofty vision of new possibilities for the human race, has been labeled Utopian."

- Emma Goldman

Old Post Dec 7th, 2010 07:28 PM
Liberator is currently offline Click here to Send Liberator a Private Message Find more posts by Liberator Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
skekUng
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: The Crystal Chamber

I wish it would spread. I don't know how realistic it is to think it will, though.

There were a lot of Pavlovian phrases in her interview that will set people off. Phrases like, no one checked immigrant status, 17 year old chairing a committee, language barriers, successful in South America, etc.

Old Post Dec 7th, 2010 08:12 PM
skekUng is currently offline Click here to Send skekUng a Private Message Find more posts by skekUng Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Liberator
Mums Gardener

Gender: Male
Location: United Kingdom

Yes, apparently there is a lot of illegal immigrants involved in this programme, however, that shouldn't negate it's importance and efficiency.


__________________
"Every daring attempt to make a great change in existing conditions, every lofty vision of new possibilities for the human race, has been labeled Utopian."

- Emma Goldman

Old Post Dec 8th, 2010 01:23 AM
Liberator is currently offline Click here to Send Liberator a Private Message Find more posts by Liberator Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
dadudemon
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: Bacta Tank.

So the 49th ward gets direct democracy and they spend it on:

Murals and artistic Bike Racks.



I liked the idea until I saw that in the vid.

If they had said that spending on, say, schools improved by 30% or something, I would have been like, "This is an awesome idea!" However, I do not think it is such a good idea, anymore. Also, I usually think murals are usually hideous and are an eyesores.


__________________

Old Post Dec 8th, 2010 01:41 AM
dadudemon is currently offline Click here to Send dadudemon a Private Message Find more posts by dadudemon Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Symmetric Chaos
Fractal King

Gender: Male
Location: Ko-ro-ba

quote: (post)
Originally posted by dadudemon
So the 49th ward gets direct democracy and they spend it on:

Murals and artistic Bike Racks.



I liked the idea until I saw that in the vid.

If they had said that spending on, say, schools improved by 30% or something, I would have been like, "This is an awesome idea!" However, I do not think it is such a good idea, anymore. Also, I usually think murals are usually hideous and are an eyesores.


I knew someone was going to say that. But they weren't given the authority to vote on those things. In areas where people were, the vid says that school and health funding increased dramatically.


__________________



Graffiti outside Latin class.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
A juvenal prank.

Old Post Dec 8th, 2010 01:45 AM
Symmetric Chaos is currently offline Click here to Send Symmetric Chaos a Private Message Find more posts by Symmetric Chaos Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
dadudemon
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: Bacta Tank.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I knew someone was going to say that. But they weren't given the authority to vote on those things. In areas where people were, the vid says that school and health funding increased dramatically.


That was SA, not the 49th district.



They were given, what, $1.3 million and they spent it on murals? Even if they weren't given the authority to spend it on schools...isn't there a billion better things to spend it on other than artistic bike racks?


__________________

Old Post Dec 8th, 2010 01:50 AM
dadudemon is currently offline Click here to Send dadudemon a Private Message Find more posts by dadudemon Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Lord Lucien
Lets all love Lain

Gender: Male
Location:

quote: (post)
Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, I usually think murals are usually hideous and are an eyesores.
Thank you! Tell that to the Council where I live.


__________________
Recently Produced and Distributed Young but High-Ranking Political Figure of Royal Ancestry within the Modern American Town Affectionately Referred To as Bel-Air.

Old Post Dec 8th, 2010 02:12 AM
Lord Lucien is currently offline Click here to Send Lord Lucien a Private Message Find more posts by Lord Lucien Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
dadudemon
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: Bacta Tank.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Thank you! Tell that to the Council where I live.


Wouldn't you have rather spent that money on repairing an intersection or road? Or, say, restoring a park?

I know I would.


__________________

Old Post Dec 8th, 2010 02:16 AM
dadudemon is currently offline Click here to Send dadudemon a Private Message Find more posts by dadudemon Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Lord Lucien
Lets all love Lain

Gender: Male
Location:

quote: (post)
Originally posted by dadudemon
Wouldn't you have rather spent that money on repairing an intersection or road? Or, say, restoring a park?

I know I would.
Or fixing up the mall. That place is, like, so run down.


__________________
Recently Produced and Distributed Young but High-Ranking Political Figure of Royal Ancestry within the Modern American Town Affectionately Referred To as Bel-Air.

Old Post Dec 8th, 2010 02:31 AM
Lord Lucien is currently offline Click here to Send Lord Lucien a Private Message Find more posts by Lord Lucien Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
King Kandy
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: United States

Some more murals would be nice where I live.


__________________

Old Post Dec 8th, 2010 04:39 AM
King Kandy is currently offline Click here to Send King Kandy a Private Message Find more posts by King Kandy Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
skekUng
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: The Crystal Chamber

quote: (post)
Originally posted by skekUng
I wish it would spread. I don't know how realistic it is to think it will, though.

There were a lot of Pavlovian phrases in her interview that will set people off.

Old Post Dec 8th, 2010 04:49 AM
skekUng is currently offline Click here to Send skekUng a Private Message Find more posts by skekUng Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
All times are UTC. The time now is 11:52 PM.
  Last Thread   Next Thread

Home » Community » General Discussion Forum » Actual Democracy in America?

Email this Page
Subscribe to this Thread
   Post New Thread  Post A Reply

Forum Jump:
Search by user:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON

Text-only version
 

< - KillerMovies.com - Forum Archive - Forum Rules >


© Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by: vBulletin, copyright ©2000-2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.