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Sooo...What Does God Actually Do?

Ok so He created the world a couple of thousand years ago.
That took 7 days from what I've been told.
He sent His Son down...we know how that ended.
The Bible mentions some smiting, plagues & floods here & there...

So yeah...what exactly has He been doing with His time ever since???

There's no further proof, transcripts or appearances.

Is He still working on a Grand Plan that us mortal monkeys cannot comprehend...yet we seem to be an integral part of it?

Has The Plan already been implemented????

Show me proof of what's God done for you lately.

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God does not DO. Humans DO.


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God has been indisposed since Sons of Anarchy resumed. He's still unsure of what to do after that ends though so maybe we'll get an apocalypse soon enough.


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God has been indisposed since Sons of Anarchy resumed. He's still unsure of what to do after that ends though so maybe we'll get an apocalypse soon enough.


I feel his pain.


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God simply Is. It is us who do, in order to eventually discover through our actions that we are one with him/her/it, and that our potential is limited only by our faith, or lack there of.


Just My humble Godly opinion.


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Originally posted by Kostabot
God simply Is. It is us who do, in order to eventually discover through our actions that we are one with him/her/it, and that our potential is limited only by our faith, or lack there of.




Seriously, stop for a moment & re-read your post. It's pure surrealistic waffle.

God is... & yet we can discover that we too can be truly Gods as well????

It's the plot to Matrix 4.

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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Seriously, stop for a moment & re-read your post. It's pure surrealistic waffle.

God is... & yet we can discover that we too can be truly Gods as well????



I read my post prior to posting it, and it makes perfect sense to me. If you do not understand it please take the time to re-read it yourself. Its a spiritual riddle of sorts, and is described very well in Neale Donal Walsh's book Conversations with God (a book some may dismiss as a load of crap, but that resonates with me).


What would Suffice as a logical answer to a question like this then? God is a entity that is embodies by the Universe in its Entirety, and is not exclusive to the physical, but also includes the ethereal etc. (As is my understanding from the religious and spiritual material that I have read.

If you have your version of the answer to a question you asked, please feel free to share it so that I can show you how not to criticize people for answering a question in a way that rings true to them. wink

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It's the plot to Matrix 4.


You're not entirely wrong here. The Matrix trilogy had some pretty obvious spiritual undertones in its plot.


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Re: Sooo...What Does God Actually Do?

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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Is He still working on a Grand Plan that us mortal monkeys cannot comprehend...yet we seem to be an integral part of it?


I seriously recommend you take a look at "Conversations with God" (The book, not the movie). If this is a question you actually want some clarity on, as opposed to a means of making sarcastic underhanded remarks about how the answer makes no sense, then that book may shed some light.

It can, and has ruffled a few feathers with its unorthodox (in the traditional western christian context) interpretation of the meaning of God and the Bible, so you have to read it with a bit of an open mind, and be prepared to not like some of the things you read.

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Show me proof of what's God done for you lately.


Unfortunately it (God) doesn't work like that when it comes to faith and God. It's not "I'll believe it when I see it". It's I will see it when I believe. That is the fundamental aspect of Faith. To demonstrate it, and then be shown "the answer".


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Re: Re: Sooo...What Does God Actually Do?

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Unfortunately it (God) doesn't work like that when it comes to faith and God. It's not "I'll believe it when I see it". It's I will see it when I believe. That is the fundamental aspect of Faith. To demonstrate it, and then be shown "the answer".
"Faith is the surrender of the mind; the surrender of reason; it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different than the other mammals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason; our yearning to discard that and put all our faith and trust in someone that is the sinister thing, to me. Of all the supposed virtues, Faith is the most overrated."


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Where is that quote from?

Faith has served me well in my life. Faith in myself has helped me push through obstacles that would have otherwise beaten me. Faith in the bigger picture has helped me deal with emotional turmoil. Faith in the importance of family and friends has helped me learn the importance of honesty and maintaining trust.

I don't see faith as the complete surrender of ones fate to a higher power. I see faith as a deep knowing that you are connected to everything/everyone, and thus must treat everyone and everything with dignity and respect. To me it is the realization of the fact that outside of what I am currently capable pf influencing, I don't know what tomorrow will bring, and that I have to do my best to make that day count for everything it's worth.

I have to add the disclaimer that although these are my beliefs, I am not always good at adhering to them. I make mistakes like anyone else, my ego at times clouds my judgement, and I make poor decisions, I have bad days, I curse, I talk bad about people and I am not always 100% honest. But in the back of my mind I always identify myself as a person who values faith, and must therefore strive to better myself, and help others where I can along the way.


Faith has merit, and it is a virtue worth embracing, at least to some degree in your everyday life. We all have it in our own way i believe, some just chose to acknowledge and act on it more than others.


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It looks like a Bertrand Russell quote. In any case, I have to agree. Having a small amount of faith in some things is simply dodging depression and fatalism, such as "I believe we'll find some better place to live in the future; I have faith that I'll get hired at this new plant" or "I'm sure you'll get better, Grandma. We're here for you." Some of it is platitudes we tell ourselves and each other as a kind of optimism and benevolence that isn't in itself bad. Even faith to one's self that "there's some higher meaning here", while selectively ignoring the lack of meaning in bad thingds world-wide, is ultimately harmless if used simply to buffer one's soul against hardship.

When faith becomes a tool for determining absolute truth or a lifestyle or judging others, you have a serious problem. When that faith is a conclusion reached by someone other than yourself, it is a serious problem. If faith has a higher value to you than logic and reason, this is also a problem. If at any point in your life you are able to apply this universal tool of understanding to a problem and you replace it with blind faith, you are behaving irrationally, and to the extent you embrace that faith you could be compromising yourself and others.

It's alwys bothered me that in most countries in the west simply having faith - any kind of faith- is held as better than none and anyone who lacks this is considered defective, degenerate, or an outsider. Perhaps that's why I don't clap my hands and go "good for you" when people talk about how their faith sustains them. For I usually see faith unjustly used as a tool of prejudice, not happiness and social well being.


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It's from Christopher Hitchens. He said it at the end of an episode of Penn & Teller's Bullshit. I hear people express the concept of 'faith' so often that it's become one of my favorite quotes. I keep it at the top of my profile for quick reference.


Without descending in to pedantry, I've never like faith. I'm all for hope and belief, but resorting to a mentality that by definition exists utterly outside observation and empiricism is, as he said, "the sinister thing me."


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It's from Christopher Hitchens. He said it at the end of an episode of Penn & Teller's Bullshit. I hear people express the concept of 'faith' so often that it's become one of my favorite quotes. I keep it at the top of my profile for quick reference.


Without descending in to pedantry, I've never like faith. I'm all for hope and belief, but resorting to a mentality that by definition exists utterly outside observation and empiricism is, as he said, "the sinister thing me."


I get what you're saying, but once again I've never thought of faith as something that cant be practiced without abandonment of reasoning. My faith hasn't yet led me down a path where my reasoning caused me to doubt it. In fact I think having a good sense of reasoning is essential to develop if you are to practice faith in the way I believe it should be practiced.

Also, I don't really see myself as fitting the preconceived stereotype of a person of faith. I don't substitute my reasoning for it, I try to develop a good sense of both, and use them when I intuitively feel they are appropriate. I don't think Faith alone will get me anywhere. It may meet me half way, but I have to prove I'm willing to work for it, and that means using my logic and reasoning to achieve that goal.

You can have faith, but still be a logical, reasonable person who analyzes things instead of blindly accepting them as part of a bigger picture that you just have to believe is for the greater good. Some of the most brilliant minds were men of faith, or identified as spiritual people, and acknowledged that some things are, and may always be outside of the scope typical scientific and empirical observation.

Adopting a rigid and strictly scientific/logical mind set is in my opinion is as narrow sighted as strictly binding your beliefs to religious dogma.

I simply go by my own experiences. I'm not arguing your point, i have to add, just explaining as best as I can how my mind works, and why I believe that's the best way for me.

I hope that post made some sense. I had next to no sleep last night, and that took me ages to write. stick out tongue


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Re: Sooo...What Does God Actually Do?

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Ok so He created the world a couple of thousand years ago.
That took 7 days from what I've been told.
He sent His Son down...we know how that ended.
The Bible mentions some smiting, plagues & floods here & there...

So yeah...what exactly has He been doing with His time ever since???

There's no further proof, transcripts or appearances.

Is He still working on a Grand Plan that us mortal monkeys cannot comprehend...yet we seem to be an integral part of it?

Has The Plan already been implemented????

Show me proof of what's God done for you lately.


The creation of Earth goes back further than that. It's more like 100S of Thousands to millions of years prior. The authority of Earth After Jesus came back from death and ascended to heaven, the authority of Earth was put back into Man's hand and he gave us the responsibility to carry out the gospel.

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What Does God do? God is God that is who God is, he Is God he can do whatever he wants...He is God

If he wants to create..he creates
If he wants to kill his son to save us..he kills him
If he wants to destroy he destroys..

He is God


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You can have faith, but still be a logical, reasonable person who analyzes things instead of blindly accepting them as part of a bigger picture that you just have to believe is for the greater good.
So then what, specifically, do you have faith in?


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blind faith is blind faith its the hope and faith of something greater then this shit we call a world..I died and been to heaven and saw God.I know he is real. I know no longer only have to believe..I know


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blind faith is blind faith its the hope and faith of something greater then this shit we call a world..I died and been to heaven and saw God.I know he is real. I know no longer only have to believe..I know
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