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Man's Anti-Caitlyn Jenner Post Goes Viral but then...

You see this a lot in Social Media - someone is praised in droves and then there is an abundance of folks decrying said praise.

Terry Coffey was one of those folks who posted on facebook how Caitlyn Jenner's comparisons to bravery were silly, implying that true bravery was not found in a transgendered persons struggles, but instead the US Military. He posted the following:




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You've probably seen it shared on your facebook somewhere.

There's been an abundance of these popping up, even folks posting fake notices of award transgressions, but regardless.

Terry's Post was shared millions of times by millions of people. But then something interesting happened on the internet.

Terry's new fame lead him to realize he should probably credit the person who took that photo, and what he found blew his mind.

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http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/04/terr...jenner-bravery/

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/06...ner-haters-mind

This kind of blew my mind reading online this morning. I looked at this guys actual facebook page to see if the most recent development is true, and it is. It's right there.

Someone realized the power of their words, and in a twist of fate realized their flaw, and has since been changed for the better. Pretty great little story if you ask me.


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Yeah the net is pretty short on positive human stories like this, so nice to hear this one.


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That's really amazing. Good on him to stop and think.

If Caitlyn Jenner's fame and publicity can make life just a little bit easier for trans people it's so worth it.


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And it lasted almost 4 posts....


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I'm kind of tired of hearing about Bruce to be honest. If he is happy cool, time to move on though.


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Don't make off-topic posts like that, vansonbee. That has nothing but an inflammatory quality which has nothing to do with the theme of the thread and is exactly what I want out of threads of late.


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You can almost hear the fedora drawing that comic


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I also have to say that the guys 2nd post showing how the photo he showed was used in a documentary made by a cross dresser who got beat down...well, okay. Tragic and all that, but none of that really negated his point in the first post about bravery, etc.

Also guy, if you didn't know the picture was connected to a cross dresser prior to using it? Yeah, that means you did choose it by accident. It is what we call a "coincidence".


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You can almost hear the fedora drawing that comic


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Not to mention how messed up it is to associate transgender identities with public masturbation and sexual harassment.

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I also have to say that the guys 2nd post showing how the photo he showed was used in a documentary made by a cross dresser who got beat down...well, okay. Tragic and all that, but none of that really negated his point in the first post about bravery, etc.

Also guy, if you didn't know the picture was connected to a cross dresser prior to using it? Yeah, that means you did choose it by accident. It is what we call a "coincidence".


Well, it does though. Like it shows that being openly transgender is actually extremely brave, cause it's makes you a target and makes it very possible that you will be attacked, and almost certain you will be harassed. Caitlyn Jenner coming out so publicly was extremely brave. It was real American courage, heroism and bravery.


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I also have to say that the guys 2nd post showing how the photo he showed was used in a documentary made by a cross dresser who got beat down...well, okay. Tragic and all that, but none of that really negated his point in the first post about bravery, etc.

Also guy, if you didn't know the picture was connected to a cross dresser prior to using it? Yeah, that means you did choose it by accident. It is what we call a "coincidence".


To be more specific- the picture isn't real (at least not in the sense the guy originally thought it was). It's two dolls, painted and posed that way by the bashing victim as part of his therapy. I think that does actually rather make a point when he realised what he had ended up saying by saying 'this shows true bravery', as he was literally showing evidence of something that was not what he meant.


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Well, it does though. Like it shows that being openly transgender is actually extremely brave, cause it's makes you a target and makes it very possible that you will be attacked, and almost certain you will be harassed. Caitlyn Jenner coming out so publicly was extremely brave. It was real American courage, heroism and bravery.


You call him coming out bravery, I call it his being an attention whore.


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i like how it turned out the photo was not of a true scotsman.


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To be more specific- the picture isn't real (at least not in the sense the guy originally thought it was). It's two dolls, painted and posed that way by the bashing victim as part of his therapy. I think that does actually rather make a point when he realised what he had ended up saying by saying 'this shows true bravery', as he was literally showing evidence of something that was not what he meant.


Just to be clear, I am not saying it doesn't take bravery to come out. I'm just saying it's not the kind of bravery it takes to be a soldier, go into combat, all that crap. In other words, I'm saying a soldier that knowingly walks into combat is braver then a cross dresser who is open about it. Some might disagree, but meh.

When a guy like Bruce does it though? He comes from a family of attention whores. That is why I wonder if it is bravery for him, or something else.


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Just to be clear, I am not saying it doesn't take bravery to come out. I'm just saying it's not the kind of bravery it takes to be a soldier, go into combat, all that crap. In other words, I'm saying a soldier that knowingly walks into combat is braver then a cross dresser who is open about it. Some might disagree, but meh.

When a guy like Bruce does it though? He comes from a family of attention whores. That is why I wonder if it is bravery for him, or something else.


A woman like Caitlyn.

And imo coming out as trans, perhaps depending on where you live, takes as much if not more bravery than being a soldier.


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Just to be clear, I am not saying it doesn't take bravery to come out. I'm just saying it's not the kind of bravery it takes to be a soldier, go into combat, all that crap.

When a guy like Bruce does it though? He comes from a family of attention whores.


My post is nothing to do with that- a separate argument. My point is that the true nature of the original picture does actually change the person's original argument, as his supporting evidence was actually evidence for the opposite view- which he then re-adjusted his position to match (at least in part). I don't think your contention that his original point is not negated to be valid. He declared to be showing true bravery and used, to back it up, a picture indicating the bravery of a beaten transsexual.


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A woman like Caitlyn.

And imo coming out as trans, perhaps depending on where you life, takes as much if not more bravery than being a soldier.


Right so where does Bruce or Caitlyn live that you feel it shows he is braver then a soldier?


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im sick of this theme of "HOW DARE YOU DISHONOR OUR TROOPS BY CALLING SOMEONE BRAVE WHO ISNT A TROOP!!! YOU TAKE THAT BACK"


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