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Grifter vs. Fantomex

Both enter a foreign city and are given a GPS layout. They have 24 hours to kill one another with standard equipment.


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Pre-Flashpoint Grifter?

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Pre-Flashpoint Grifter?



It won't make a difference to you anyway.


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Just be more specific. Post image or pre- DCU?

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Misdirect makes fantomex kinda hax. He wins unless Grifter can counter


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Just be more specific. Post image or pre- DCU?



Ther rules are currently unless otherwise specified.


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Misdirect makes fantomex kinda hax. He wins unless Grifter can counter

How effective is misdirect vs an AoE attack that leveled an entire forest?


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Grifter will only THINK he fired an AoE attack. In reality, he was shot in the face.

That's how haxx he is.


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I want Grifter to win. But Fantomex's misdirection is so effective he'll probably win. He even fooled Professor X with it, if I'm not mistaken.


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unless you're aware of it and prepped against it, you're completely screwed. it's not as infallible as it once was i don't think, but it's still nearly impossible to counter. misdirect followed by multiple bullets means grifter has no real chance here.


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I want Grifter to win. But Fantomex's misdirection is so effective he'll probably win. He even fooled Professor X with it, if I'm not mistaken.


It has fooled Shadow King, Psylocke, Wolverine, Prof X, Jean Grey, Apocalypse's Celestial ship...yeah, Grifter would be no problem.


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It has fooled Shadow King, Psylocke, Wolverine, Prof X, Jean Grey, Apocalypse's Celestial ship...yeah, Grifter would be no problem.


Is his misdirection a tp assault or localized reality warp?


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Is his misdirection a tp assault or localized reality warp?





A TP illusion that is so powerful it may as well be a reality warp.


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Is his misdirection a tp assault or localized reality warp?


it's really never been characterized as either. it seems to be a bit of both. jaime braddock had to actually use his reality manipulation powers to forcibly shatter a misdirection. and he only noticed it was a misdirect because of the way he can perceive reality. at times it has been alluded to as a tp power, but it was never intended to be such. at least not when it was first established. it has even worked extensively on SHIP, apocalypse's self aware celestial space craft. truly a crazy power.


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Nice. I wonder if it can be blocked? Like with mags helmet or something akin


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it's really never been characterized as either. it seems to be a bit of both. jaime braddock had to actually use his reality manipulation powers to forcibly shatter a misdirection. and he only noticed it was a misdirect because of the way he can perceive reality. at times it has been alluded to as a tp power, but it was never intended to be such. at least not when it was first established. it has even worked extensively on SHIP, apocalypse's self aware celestial space craft. truly a crazy power.


Wait a minute, didn't Starlord used to have SHIP?


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Fantomex himself lies about it a lot. Sometimes he's even alluded to it being nanotech based.

I don't think its TP, personally, as his helmet is meant to be TP proof.


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Fantomex himself lies about it a lot. Sometimes he's even alluded to it being nanotech based.

I don't think its TP, personally, as his helmet is meant to be TP proof.



That does not necessarily mean he lying.


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