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Angelalex242
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ROTJ Luke
It's coming up frequently, lately.
Are we considering Luke to be >= Vader?
Or are we considering Luke to be a half trained idiot?
The vs. threads may need to make a distinction between Novel ROTJ Luke and Disney ROTJ Luke.
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Dec 28th, 2014 10:58 PM |
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Selenial
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ROTJ Luke < Vader
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Dec 28th, 2014 10:59 PM |
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NewGuy01
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Neither. And the RotJ novel is part of Disney canon, so I'm not sure what the distinction is.
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Dec 28th, 2014 11:00 PM |
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He is his equivalent as a duelist not as a force user, without plot convenience Vader kills him with TK
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Dec 29th, 2014 12:03 AM |
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Angelalex242
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Location: United States
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The Plot Armor is strong with this one.
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Dec 29th, 2014 12:13 AM |
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I have a theory that DARTHPOWER has the families of LucasFilms' story team tied up in his basement at gunpoint until Filoni and Lucas have released sufficient creator statements to nerf/boost the characters of his preference. So on those grounds Luke is Vader's equal as a duelist.
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Dec 29th, 2014 01:34 AM |
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|King Joker|
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LOL
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Dec 29th, 2014 01:43 AM |
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Jaggarath
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LMFAO
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Dec 29th, 2014 01:54 AM |
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Darth Thor
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Yes, very funny ILS. But the really funny thing is Luke IS one of my preferred characters.
However just like there's no shame in an Obi-Wan fan admitting TPM Kenobi < TPM Maul, similarly there's no shame in a Luke fan calling ROTJ Luke < ROTJ Vader.
Luke simply hadn't had enough training at that point to be >/= Vader. But bring up Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy Luke or Dark Empire Luke and it's a completely different story.
Lucas Post-Prequels has simply revamped the extent of ROTJ Luke's abilities given the amount of training Prequel era Jedi had.
He's half trained by ROTJ according to Lucas, but a Half-Trained Luke is still >/= a Fully Trained Obi-Wan for example. And the speed Luke progressed at to even be "Half Trained" by ROTJ is still Astonishing.
Also Angelalex242 what's with the Half Trained "idiot." Luke is not an idiot, not even with Zero training.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Dec 29th, 2014 at 09:30 AM
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