So, with the wide variety of views here on KMC, I'm curious as to what you all make of Force Wounds; not necessarily whether they suck, are cool or overrated. But how you think a Force wound works. With the topic being so open to speculation and having some very vague details. I'd like to hear what you all think. Enjoy and discuss.
(I'll post my thoughts when I get on a PC.)
Retarded, just like 90% of the EU and everything that's come out of the Old Republic/NJO eras.
Force wounds don't have a rational explanation for how they work. It's just plot armor lazily turned into an in-universe concept by shitty writers.
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"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
Anyway. the way i see it, it's a pretty interesting concept, but i'm left with a lot more questions than answers when the explanation comes around. I'll elaborate.
Several times in the Knights of The Old Republic series it's stated that Wounds feed and are empowered by death, with each person that falls to them, they become more and more powerful. But, how does this come into play in combat? what increases? their force potential? raw power? how does this even remotely touch combative skill? more specifically, lightsaber combat.
In all of the quotes that are given to us, Kreia never really elaborates—as per uje— on how the wounds are affected by their feeding of life and death. I myself doubt it's combative prowess. all that we get is "more powerful" "strong" etcetera.
I view wounds as a force enhancing drugs, they grant you a single, deadly and destructive power(i.e Force Drain) but it comes at a risk of losing yourself to that power(Like Nihilus) I don't think being a wound and the benefit of becoming stronger with each kill is actually enough to be taken into consideration in a debate, simply because we don't know if it affects combative skill.
A great example of this is Anakin and his rival, Ferus Olin. We all know that Anakin's potential and power were great even as of AOTC and Pre-AOTC. The council and Obi-Wan during The Jedi Quest novel state this, yet Ferus, a Jedi who was stated to have an inferior connection to the force compared to Anakin, was considered to be the more skilled and talented of the two, despite Anakin's own strength and obvious power.
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Well Nihilus killed a **** ton of people and his power was so great that he could do god like stuff so obviously it does increase their power, however, its not like Nihilus kills one person and suddenly is one level, it takes lots and lots and lots of death to see a significant increase
I just see them as really potent Dark-side nexus's that do war more ill to the natural Force then what normal Dark-siders dish out.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Well, actually, it's kinda-sorta-ish consistent with that idea. If I had to choose, that would be my way of describing it, anyway.
Dark Side Nexuses have been depicted in many different ways, but in some cases they've been consistent with the Exile's traits; Byss and Malachor drained life forces of it's inhabitants. Dagobah's nexus made Yoda's force presence undetectable.
As for the whole Force-bonding thing, supposedly that was something Meetra was dealing with before she became a wound, so...? It kinda makes sense.
But it's a load of BS anyway, for a Jedi to become a fvcking dark side nexus. Especially considering it's miraculously gone and unspoken of in Revan.
Tbh I never saw any real difference between Surik having the Wound and not having it. The only things I ever got from it was, she was immune to Force Drain....and she could form bonds easily with others.
...That's really all I ever took from it and it's really nothing special.
In Meetra's case, that is kind of enough imo. After all, she was more of a hole than a wound unlike Nihilus. In his case, the whole wound thing found another meaning entirely.
And she was draining the energy from those she bonded with as well as those she slaughtered or fought, which enabled her to become immensely powerful. Far greater than she had been before Malachor. She was also able to learn techniques in mere moments, most probably by siphoning knowledge through these bonds. Her bonding also allowed her to influence the minds of others and shape their personalities as well as partially compel them to follow her.
How is that any different then studying or having a vast power potential? Luke was also able to learn things at instantaneous rates too without a Force bond.
Couldn't you also influence others, by just speaking to them and sharing your own views and having them follow you?...
I mean I don't get why Surik needed this Force Wound thing, when she could have just had it as just part of her character to begin with...was writing that too difficult so they made something up, when other things could have just achieved the same results?