Darth Abonis
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Was Rey's force progression WAY too fast?
I think Rey learned how to use the Force too fast. It took Luke 3 years to really start being able to do telekinesis and his first ligthsaber duel with Vader in the comics was a joke. Yet, Rey is able to do a mind trick on her second try; Luke couldn't do it at all in Heir to the Jedi. Also, Rey was able to beat Kylo Ren in a lightsaber duel, without any training and summoned Luke's old lightsaber to her hand, by defying the force pull of Kylo, a highly trained Force-sensitive. What I'm saying is. Is this just a glaring plot problem or is Rey perhaps the strongest in the Force in Disney canon, and the fastest learner; above Luke, Ezra, Kanan etc.
Feb 2nd, 2016 07:56 PM
ares834
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One thing, she didn’t really overpower Kylo in a force pull. Kylo, for whatever reason, was incapable of pulling Anakin’s saber to himself. Rey was.
But yes, her progression was too fast for my liking. Hopefully, we get a reason for this in the next film.
Feb 2nd, 2016 08:02 PM
Lord Lucien
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Lightsabers give visions now and choose their wielders like wands from Harry Potter.
If I'm cool with that (and I am), I can handle Rey learning the Force real goods real fasts.
It's magic. She's a wizard.
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Feb 2nd, 2016 09:22 PM
Bentley
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I don't mind Rey as long as she dies in the next film and her powers in the Force are never explained.
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Feb 2nd, 2016 09:32 PM
Darth Abonis
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bentley
I don't mind Rey as long as she dies in the next film and her powers in the Force are never explained.
Lol
Feb 2nd, 2016 10:07 PM
Lord Lucien
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I'm hoping that Luke gives her the Potara earrings so she can fuse with Kylo Ren to defeat Snoke.
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Feb 2nd, 2016 10:08 PM
Darth Abonis
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I'm hoping that Luke gives her the Potara earrings so she can fuse with Kylo Ren to defeat Snoke.
LOL.
Feb 2nd, 2016 10:16 PM
queeq
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As long as that will give us more wizard lightsaber 'unts unts unts unts' scenes... with extra CGI, I'm fine with that.
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Feb 3rd, 2016 07:51 AM
NewLanceWindu
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Abonis
I think Rey learned how to use the Force too fast. It took Luke 3 years to really start being able to do telekinesis and his first ligthsaber duel with Vader in the comics was a joke. Yet, Rey is able to do a mind trick on her second try; Luke couldn't do it at all in Heir to the Jedi. Also, Rey was able to beat Kylo Ren in a lightsaber duel, without any training and summoned Luke's old lightsaber to her hand, by defying the force pull of Kylo, a highly trained Force-sensitive. What I'm saying is. Is this just a glaring plot problem or is Rey perhaps the strongest in the Force in Disney canon, and the fastest learner; above Luke, Ezra, Kanan etc.
What you're not taking into account is Rey most likely being an extremely powerful Force user who was trained from a very young age before being left on Jakku with a mental block. The events of The Force Awakens kickstarting her brain and awakening what she already knew.
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Feb 3rd, 2016 04:25 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by NewLanceWindu
What you're not taking into account is Rey most likely being an extremely powerful Force user who was trained from a very young age before being left on Jakku with a mental block. The events of The Force Awakens kickstarting her brain and awakening what she already knew.
Hopefully.
Feb 3rd, 2016 04:30 PM
queeq
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by NewLanceWindu
What you're not taking into account is Rey most likely being an extremely powerful Force user who was trained from a very young age before being left on Jakku with a mental block. The events of The Force Awakens kickstarting her brain and awakening what she already knew.
Assumptions, assumptions...
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Feb 3rd, 2016 06:32 PM
NewLanceWindu
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by queeq
Assumptions, assumptions...
Absolutely, but is the most likely theory.
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Feb 4th, 2016 06:04 AM
queeq
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I dunno. There's very little evidence of that. I'm waiting fro the next movie.
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Feb 4th, 2016 07:31 AM
Bentley
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If Rey doesn't turn out to be Palpatine in drag I'll be disappointed.
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Feb 4th, 2016 09:23 AM
queeq
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Ah, well me too!
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Feb 4th, 2016 08:36 PM
Sith Master X
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If the "lightsabers give visions" idea came from Lucas, it would be about as panned as midi-chilorians.
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Feb 6th, 2016 04:03 AM
queeq
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The Force gives visions... not lightsabers.
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Feb 6th, 2016 01:03 PM
Q99
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Not really. She got first-hand experience with mind techniques, Kylo practically projecting stuff into her head, then it took her multiple tries to get it right.
Note Luke was deflecting blaster bolts in a few minutes after starting.
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Feb 6th, 2016 02:36 PM
queeq
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What do mind techniques have to do with Force visions? Besides Kylo uses the Force to extract stuff from people like Rey and Poe.
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Feb 6th, 2016 04:08 PM
ares834
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Q99
Not really. She got first-hand experience with mind techniques, Kylo practically projecting stuff into her head, then it took her multiple tries to get it right.
Note Luke was deflecting blaster bolts in a few minutes after starting.
Sure, but that is merely him letting the force guide him not actively using force powers.
Which is something Rey was capable of doing this before she had any force training as we see when she flies the Falcon.
Feb 6th, 2016 06:36 PM
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