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Fated Xtasy
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Hopefully the black sheep will overrun the herd sometime in the future.


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He sounds like my entire family. I'm the black sheep atheist among a crop of ultra-conservative Christians.


Wait wait wait a sec, you aren't a leftist though, yes?


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Wait wait wait a sec, you aren't a leftist though, yes?


I'm hard to pin down. I don't really care for the current SJW nonsense with cultural appropriation, safe spaces, and letting transgenders use different gender bathrooms. I oppose hounding places like cake bakers, and wedding photographers. I think Brendan Eich was unfairly treated. I think the flood of Muslims into Europe is a bad thing.

However, I really dislike conservative foreign and economic policy. I think they fall into the other extreme on social issues, and I really hate Global Warming deniers.

I also hate the current GOP, although I don't actually have any beef with Trump.

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I'm hard to pin down. I don't really care for the current SJW nonsense with cultural appropriation, safe spaces, and letting transgenders use different gender bathrooms. I oppose hounding places like cake bakers, and wedding photographers. I think Brendan Eich was unfairly treated. I think the flood of Muslims into Europe is a bad thing.

However, I really dislike conservative foreign and economic policy. I think they fall into the other extreme on social issues, and I really hate Global Warming deniers.

I also hate the current GOP, although I don't actually have any beef with Trump.


10/10 would deport muslims with


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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
KotFE isn't like KotOR at all, the premise isn't even the same as KotOR, and even if it was, it's the exact same developer, which is known for retelling the exact same story for 18+ years. KotOR is just Baldur's Gate in new clothes.


I'm not saying KotFE is like KotOR. I'm saying the premise is almost identical to the one portrayed in KotOR II about the 'True Sith', everything Traya says about them and how she says Revan disappeared because he went looking for them, etc. That premise = Eternal Empire.

And...






I never played Baldur's Gate. no expression


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I'm not saying KotFE is like KotOR. I'm saying the premise is almost identical to the one portrayed in KotOR II about the 'True Sith', everything Traya says about them and how she says Revan disappeared because he went looking for them, etc. That premise = Eternal Empire.

The premise for KotOR II and KotOR are like the exact same thing because it's the exact same story, even sharing the exact same characters. It may seem like they made it up as they go along, but some of these things were established beforehand. The point. And no, it's really not similar at all. The Eternal Empire isn't supposed to be like the True Sith, Revan never even knew they existed, let alone did he ever consider looking for them, kek. Or anyone for that matter. No one knew Zakuul was a thing until they invaded, whereas the Republic knew the Sith existed somewhere out there, they were just dumb enough to think they'd be weak and unable to attack them. Nothing Traya has said about anything has been true about anything ever outside of KotOR II, and I mean literally everything she says has been proven wrong one way or the other. It certainly doesn't match with the Eternal Empire.
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I never played Baldur's Gate. no expression

Lucky you. Doesn't really change my point.

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Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The premise for KotOR II and KotOR are like the exact same thing because it's the exact same story, even sharing the exact same characters. It may seem like they made it up as they go along, but some of these things were established beforehand. The point. And no, it's really not similar at all. The Eternal Empire isn't supposed to be like the True Sith, Revan never even knew they existed, let alone did he ever consider looking for them, kek. Or anyone for that matter. No one knew Zakuul was a thing until they invaded, whereas the Republic knew the Sith existed somewhere out there, they were just dumb enough to think they'd be weak and unable to attack them. Nothing Traya has said about anything has been true about anything ever outside of KotOR II, and I mean literally everything she says has been proven wrong one way or the other. It certainly doesn't match with the Eternal Empire.


Dude. Let's compare.


True Sith

- Hiding in Unknown Regions, allowing the Republic and Revan and Malak's Empire to cripple themselves to attack
- Led by Vitiate
- Centuries in the making
- Nobody knew about Dromund Kaas
- Individual protag attempts to fight and defeat them (Revan)
- Is initially unable to, the True Sith plunge the galaxy into darkness/war
- Vitiate attempts to mind-control the protag and use his power for his own purposes


Eternal Empire

- Hiding in Wild Space, allowing the Republic and Vitiate's Empire to cripple themselves to attack
- Led by Valkorion
- Centuries in the making
- Nobody knew about Zakuul
- Individual protag attempts to fight and defeat them (Outlander)
- Is initially unable to, the Eternal Empire plunges the galaxy into darkness/war
- Valkorion attempts to mind-control the protag and use his power for his own purposes


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Lucky you. Doesn't really change my point.



Wasn't trying to make a reference to your point. Was just sayin'. Lighten up a bit.


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Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Dude. Let's compare.


True Sith

- Hiding in Unknown Regions, allowing the Republic and Revan and Malak's Empire to cripple themselves to attack



Eternal Empire

- Hiding in Wild Space, allowing the Republic and Vitiate's Empire to cripple themselves to attack

You do know this actually wasn't the premise of KotOR II, right? The premise Kreia thought up was Revan saw something so scary he ran back to Republic Space and was preparing the Republic by fire. That being said, Revan/Malak's Sith Empire still belonged to Vitiate directly, and even if it didn't their goal wasn't to weaken the Republic as much as it was to give him the Star Forge.
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- Led by Vitiate

- Led by Valkorion

Which is a point in favor of DE, not KotOR or KotOR II.
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- Centuries in the making

- Centuries in the making

Yes, it turns out when you're immortal you can make really long plans. Go figure.
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- Nobody knew about Dromund Kaas

- Nobody knew about Zakuul

Yeah and until 20 years before the game's start, no one knew about Tython. The Republic and the Empire not knowing about a planet is hardly far-fetched. This is still more in favor of DE anyway, as no one knew about Byss.
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- Individual protag attempts to fight and defeat them (Revan)

- Individual protag attempts to fight and defeat them (Outlander)

(enter all fiction), and while Revan and the Outlander may have a few similarities, these situations aren't comparable. Like at all.
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- Is initially unable to, the True Sith plunge the galaxy into darkness/war

- Is initially unable to, the Eternal Empire plunges the galaxy into darkness/war

See the above. The story would be short and boring if you could just kill the threat in one go. That's hardly unique to Revan or any other story out there.
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- Vitiate attempts to mind-control the protag and use his power for his own purposes
- Valkorion attempts to mind-control the protag and use his power for his own purposes

Actually has not happened once in KotFE. So...


Let me put it this way. The protagonist after recently ending a major galactic threat and defeating the bad guy with a little help hears that there is a new threat. In searching for the bad guy he finds that the new threat and the old threat are one in the same, a secret better empire on a hidden world, with a god-like being on the throne. The hero, realizing he can't defeat the big bad empire on his own joins the Emperor to find power and understanding.

Which is nothing like KotOR, in case you were wondering. Besides your vague, and pretty incorrect, generalities, I'm not seeing the similarities here.

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Someone recap the state of the forum for me as of late Feb 2016.

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Progress continues its inevitable march. Excellent.

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There will always be heretics. And Sheevism?

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Someone recap the state of the forum for me as of late Feb 2016.


KMC has banned all new registration essentially condemning the forum to a slow death and exiling all who reside here to slowly decay into madness ( those who aren't already ).

Shitposting has reached an all time high.

SWTOR wanking has reached unprecedented levels.

90% of the forum has boarded the Bane hatetrain.

Ant was banned so I can't even find mild amusement here anymore.

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Sheevism is dying out.


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There will always be heretics. And Sheevism?


M-master? Not you too. ;-;

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gay


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KMC has banned all new registration essentially condemning the forum to a slow death and exiling all who reside here to slowly decay into madness ( those who haven't fallen into it already ).


Good. This place should wither and rot in my absence.

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Shitposting has reached an all time high.


Also good.

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SWTOR wanking has reached unprecedented levels.


That seems ominous. Monitor the situation closely, my disciple.

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90% of the forum has boarded the Bane hatetrain.


Only 90?

We must bolster recruiting efforts. Free boarding passes for everyone on this most special train.

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Ant was banned so I can't even find mild amusement here anymore.


Intriguing

What trespass did the child commit that the authorities would punish him so harshly?

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He was insulting Ushgarak lol

Revanchiste got banned for the same duration of time on literally the same day as well


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Ant roasted Ushgarak. Hard.


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