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JediRobin23
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If Maul can survive that fall then certainly Mace Windu could survive his....

Getting cut in half or zapped by lightning is the only difference....

Perhaps they should resurrect windu and put him in rebels or rogue one... roll eyes (sarcastic)

Or maybe palpatine survived and the fall managed to change his appearance and voice to make him Snoke...

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Originally posted by JediRobin23
If Maul can survive that fall then certainly Mace Windu could survive his....

Getting cut in half or zapped by lightning is the only difference....

Perhaps they should resurrect windu and put him in rebels or rogue one...

Or maybe palpatine survived and the fall managed to change his appearance and voice to make him Snoke...

Except it's confirmed Mace is dead in Canon so...nope.

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If Maul can survive that fall then certainly Mace Windu could survive his....

Well Filoni (director of TCW) explains Maul's revival as the Sith having an unhealthy attachment to life, where they cling to it with all the power they have.

Whereas the Jedi accept their destiny more willingly and move on to become one with the Force.

He didn't mention Mace specifically, but his commentary on Maul's revival shows that Sith and Jedi are just different like that, therefore Maul's survival alone shouldn't be used as evidence of Mace being alive.

I know you're joking btw, but just thought I'd throw that out there anyway.

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Except it's confirmed Mace is dead in Canon so...nope.

To be fair, so was Maul at one time.

But I also doubt he'd ever be back because 1) My reasons above, 2) It wouldn't make any sense narratively and 3) Disney seems to want to move away from the Prequels.

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JediRobin23
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So, with that director reasoning, Palpatine (being a sith) would cling to survive his fall. Still seems weird for Maul to survive.

My opinion, there will alwalys be a separate Lucas Canon.....Ep 1-6 only

This Disney new canon should not use rebels or standalones to include with the episodes as new canon.....

My view

EU: legends
Rebels, clone wars, rogue one, etc: spin offs (non canon)
Episode 1-6: Lucas canon
Episode 7- : Disney canon

Nov 17th, 2016 03:08 PM

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So, with that director reasoning, Palpatine (being a sith) would cling to survive his fall.

Unfortunately for Palpatine he disintegrated in the Death Star's reactor core.

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Still seems weird for Maul to survive.

If it means anything to you he was left in a psychotic mental state from his injuries, and his mind had to be revived via magic.

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My opinion, there will alwalys be a separate Lucas Canon.....Ep 1-6 only

Lucas Canon includes TCW. He made that clear to Disney which is why they've kept it Canon.

This Kyber Crystal power source for the Death Star came from Lucas in unfinished TCW episodes.

Nov 17th, 2016 04:06 PM

JediRobin23
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So, did Mail also land on a huge cushion or safety net? How did they explain that? Or did gravity cease to exist when he reached the bottom....

Is there some reference you have where Lucas wanted Maul to survive? Or did he just let others write there own story (like the rest of EU), and Lucas just said, "that's ok" cause worst case it won't be considered canon like eu

Nov 17th, 2016 04:43 PM

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He grabbed an air vent or something before hitting the ground....despite there not being any vents when you look, but yeah, was in a comic I recall.

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To be fair, so was Maul at one time.

In Canon? Cause I don't recall any Canon source saying that he was dead, before he came back.

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In Canon? Cause I don't recall any Canon source saying that he was dead, before he came back.

Lucas said so in the commentary.

Nov 17th, 2016 05:47 PM

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Lucas said so in the commentary.

This was when?

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This was when?

Think it was TPM commentary.

He's definitely said somewhere that he showed Maul getting cut in half so that we know he's not coming back.

Nov 17th, 2016 06:18 PM

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Think it was TPM commentary.

He's definitely said somewhere that he showed Maul getting cut in half so that we know he's not coming back.

So Legends, so yeah of course. That's not the case with Canon though.

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So Legends, so yeah of course. That's not the case with Canon though.

How's Lucas's commentary Legends?

Nov 17th, 2016 06:51 PM

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How's Lucas's commentary Legends?

Because he sold SW to Disney who then in turned axed the SWU to a reboot and thus having the current Canon, so therefore what Lucas said before would only apply to Legends continuity, not Canon.

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JediRobin23
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I would say darth maul surviving is legends. Lucas's Vision of Maul being dead is correct..

Nov 17th, 2016 06:59 PM

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I would say darth maul surviving is legends. Lucas's Vision of Maul being dead is correct..

Except Maul didn't survive in Legends, he dead. TCW is Canon material.

This all gonna be more clear, since there's a new comic series coming up depicting Maul in his younger days before TPM as a Sith Apprentice.

Much similar to how Legends had Maul material prior to TPM.

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JediRobin23
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Except Maul didn't survive in Legends, he dead. TCW is Canon material.

What I mean is Lucas wrote that Maul dies in episode 1. Hence being Lucas canon. Unless Lucas wrote that maul comes back in TCW, then I don't consider it Lucas canon. Someone else wrote the Story and Lucas just let it happen

Someone else writing maul in TCW is legends or if you want to call it Disney canon.

Nov 17th, 2016 07:16 PM

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What I mean is Lucas wrote that Maul dies in episode 1. Hence being Lucas canon. Unless Lucas wrote that maul comes back in TCW, then I don't consider it Lucas canon. Someone else wrote the Story and Lucas just let it happen

Someone else writing maul in TCW is legends or if you want to call it Disney canon.

Disney Canon =/= Legends.

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Canon is Disney canon now. Maul's survival is canon, he's in TCW and he's in Rebels.

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Darth Thor
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Because he sold SW to Disney who then in turned axed the SWU to a reboot and thus having the current Canon, so therefore what Lucas said before would only apply to Legends continuity, not Canon.

Lucas's vision was always separate and independent to Legends. It's still Lucas's commentary on the "Canon" Episodes 1-6. Also you can bet the sale contract for Star Wars was one big ass document about what they can and can't do.

For example, it's the edited version of the films which are canon. Disney can't change it back to the original versions.

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I would say darth maul surviving is legends. Lucas's Vision of Maul being dead is correct..

It was Lucas who brought Maul back. Try to listen please.

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