Yeah, we've already covered that, but as Lee isn't fencing in the film, and as I cannot see how he looks like a fencer trying to fight like a swordsman rather than just a swordsman, I just can't see this point.
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It was obvious that Obi-wan and Anakin didn't have a chance against Dooku, while Yoda morte than held his own. Mace Windu's (suppossed) unusual lightsaber fighting style would've allowed him to hold his own against Dooku. Darth Maul's speed, ferocity and double-bladed lightsaber would have been interesting against Dooku's calculating precision. Qui-Gon's knowledge of Dooku's fighting style from his teachings (Dooku was Qui-Gon's teacher . . . or so Dooku claimed) would've certainly given him an edge in using counter-techniques. However, Darth Vader vs Darth Tyranus would be most interesting. Dooku would have the edge with skill. However, Vader with his awesome power from his anger (as we saw in AOTC) would more than compensate with sheer aggression and ferocity.
Vader's real strength comes from his anger. He had a lot more anger inside him than Darth Tyranus (Dooku) did. I read that Vader's Sith armor actually enhances his combat abilities even further, as was evident in the OT.
Wasn't really THAT evident, and that is not canon. Anger or otherwise he still would have been for the chop. The PT combatants are a class ahead of the OT ones.
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well I guess Vaders strength in the force might have aided him, and that he was full of dirty tricks too.
Guess he learned some from Dokku but the Count seemed to be a bit more gentleman figther while duelling with the blades
To be honest, Dooku exhibited more tricks than Vader ever did.
The fact is that Luke, half-trained, as GL himself calls him, would never have been able to beat Vader if Vader had not been so inconvenienced by his injuries. It has been made clear that the OT combatants are not up to scratch!
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well i guess his prime.
but even in his old age ... very difficult ... just too powerful with the force.
Count Dooku is my second favourite sith though. I think the best piece of casting for episode 2. Wish they had shown more of him in the storyline ... it's a really good character.
It doesn't matter about Vader's power with the Force. It is fairly clear that regardless of Force power, sabre skill counts a whole lot more (Dooku is MUCH better than Obi-Wan with the Force but needed a sabre to beat him).
And regardless of anger, power, or otherwise, GL made it clear that the OT combatants are not as good as th PT ones, and that incluides crippled Vader.
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