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CBright7831
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Originally posted by HAROLD
There's one film nobody has spoken of: Harry Potter 4. This film is supposed to have the highest budget of any film in history ($300 million), and anyone who has read the book will know about the incredible scenes that will make their way from the page to the screen (ie. First Task w/ dragons, hundreds of house-elves, etc.)

My picks for nominees: ROTS vs. WOTW vs. GOF
Why people are forgetting King Kong, I have no idea.

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I did say King Kong if you read my post

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I fear that King Kong may be just another CG-fest... so I'm going for WOTW, Narnia or HP

though I do think that Peter Jackson has a tad more control when it comes to CG than Lucas big grin


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PJ is directing king kong though.


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There are some pretty big contenders... Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy, Chronicles of Narnia, War of the Worlds, Harry Potter 4, King Kong... The Academy douches may not even nominate Revenge of the Sith

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Originally posted by hunchy
Let me clear a few things straight. While talking about the younglings, I said there were real kids mixed with some CG. I didn't go into detail about their arms being CG. First off, I noticed the scene looked awkward, but did not go frame by frame. No one needs to to tell that AOTC has some horrible fx shots. Secondly, where did you even hear that the arms are CG?

It in cinefex magazine, and indepth special effects publication. Its also on the DVD features some where. surprised so few people have heard of that.


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Originally posted by unno
I find it hilarious that you mention live-action compositing, when TTT has some of the worst composites I've seen (since they stopped being done optically, anyway). Look at the hobbits in the Boromir scene. Look at the hobbits riding Treebeard. Really pathetic.

Unno

BTW, to husky: WETA is not involved in the visual effects for Narnia. They were involved with the make-up / prosthetics and some of the models.


THANK YOU!! All films have their ups and downs in the effects department, but, as someone posted the phrasing earlier, the academy also considers the CONTRIBUTION TO THE FIELD as a whole, and the Star Wars films have killed in that department.


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Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
It's things like this that really annoy me. The Clonetroopers in AOTC looked horrible and there was absolutely no need for them all to be CG! even if they made a couple of costumes it woulda been a lot better.

and then you hear Lucas and especially Rob Coleman (man he's such a geek!) get all excited and say "we never even made one single clonetrooper costume, it's all CG"... like they're saying "ooh, look at me, look what I did. Ooh I'm sooo clever!"

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what are you jealous or something? the clones looked awesome, and had they been actors, they wouldn't have been all the same size, they would have cost a lot more, and the CG clones look bad ass!!! I can't believe I'm hearing such complete crap on a movie board, on a star wars forum maybe, but this place is supposed to be filled with film fanatics that actually understand the process...its just amazing some of the things I'm hearing here.


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Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
I fear that King Kong may be just another CG-fest... so I'm going for WOTW, Narnia or HP

though I do think that Peter Jackson has a tad more control when it comes to CG than Lucas big grin


I don't think anyone has more control over their effects department than Lucas, he's there all the time, he owns it, he's their boss, and he's obsessive about his finished product.


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Maybe my expectations are just too high...

but I stand my my statements, the CG clone troopers look crap! I mean as far as CG work goes, definitely they're pretty damn good. But compared to the real thing they suck... you can totally tell they're CG by both the way the look and the the way they move, it's just so unnatural.

As for my comment on Lucas's control on VFX I mis-spoke... what I meant was Jackson seems to do as much as he can with real practical effects (miniatures etc...). Lucas sees any opportunity to use CG and takes it.

I'm not exactly saying the CG work on the PT is terrible (ok, I may have said that, but I take it back). Most of it is okay, some of it is great and some is just awful. As far as CG goes the PT is way up there, but definitely not at the top of the field.

I just don't think the technology has come far enough to be able to use is in a substantial amount in a live action film... at least not as much as Lucas uses it.


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When they can create CG troopers photorealistic I'll be happy for them to use them... but at this stage they can't:

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again, you have to see them in motion to really get my point... the CG clones movements are just horrid. But even from just the pictures I think it's clear.. at least to me smile


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i never try looking into the Special Effects too deeply. The effects in all 6 movies look stunning to me. In a movie i focus on the character interaction and the storyline, i dont look closely in the background looking for shadows and footprints, i mean who cares?

And LOTR isnt so SPECIAL afterall. The film had many mistakes in certain fight scenes where people were incomplete with missing limbs and everything, or so ive heard, since ive never seen LOTR and i dont intend to


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Originally posted by mephistodesigns
It in cinefex magazine, and indepth special effects publication. Its also on the DVD features some where. surprised so few people have heard of that.


It's on the audio commentary. One of the visual effects supervisors (John Knoll, I think) talks about that.

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Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
When they can create CG troopers photorealistic I'll be happy for them to use them... but at this stage they can't:

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again, you have to see them in motion to really get my point... the CG clones movements are just horrid. But even from just the pictures I think it's clear.. at least to me smile


Well, I think Episode II had INCREDIBLE visual effects. The ENTIRE Geonosis sequence was breathtaking. You've been putting down AOTC through the whole thread, and until now I haven't said anything. But that's just ludacris, saying the Clone Troopers animated badly.

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i agree. What was wrong with the clonetroopers? blink


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i agree. What was wrong with the clonetroopers? blink


Nothing at all. He's just trying to sound like he can see through any kind of visual effect in any movie.

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Originally posted by hunchy
And Unno, the name is HUNCHY, not HUSKY. And yes, WETA is working on the visuals for Narnia. Look at IMDB. Why would they make the props, costumes, etc, and not do visuals?


I appologize for getting the name wrong. I was really tired when I wrote that. However, WETA is NOT doing the visual effects. I haven't checked IMDB's page, but IMDB has never been a very reliable source. The visual effects on Narnia are being done by Sony Imageworks and Rhythm & Hues. It's really not uncommon for multiple effects companies to work on a film.

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There's one film nobody has spoken of: Harry Potter 4. This film is supposed to have the highest budget of any film in history ($300 million), and anyone who has read the book will know about the incredible scenes that will make their way from the page to the screen (ie. First Task w/ dragons, hundreds of house-elves, etc.)

My picks for nominees: ROTS vs. WOTW vs. GOF


You muggle embarrasment

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You muggle embarrasment


I know WookieWindu personally. In fact, it was ME who encouraged him to join KCM.

You spelled 'wookiee' wrong, Seth.

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In a movie i focus on the character interaction and the storyline, i dont look closely in the background looking for shadows and footprints

I agree, the things I'm comlpaining about are not in the backgound though, they're front center stage...

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And LOTR isnt so SPECIAL afterall.

Nope, LOTR had some terrible effects too: Legolas slaying the Elephant was horrible!

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Well, I think Episode II had INCREDIBLE visual effects. The ENTIRE Geonosis sequence was breathtaking.... that's just ludacris, saying the Clone Troopers animated badly.

hmm, well you're allowed your opinion and I respect that even though I don't agree with it.

The Geonosis battle is probably my least favourite scenes because of it's use of CG... I mean, there looked to be entire shots composed entirely of CGI! and I could tell.

And the clonetroopers are terrible as far as I'm concerned. Like I said, in terms of CGI they're great (on par with legolas and the elephant *cringe*), but I just wont be happy until I see a real photorealistic trooper on the screen.. real or CG.

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He's just trying to sound like he can see through any kind of visual effect in any movie.

That's not what I'm saying at all... there are probably hundreds of effects in these films I didn't even know were CG. All I'm saying is that there are some really bad shots...


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