You stll haven't answered my question (BTW I dont watch Fox often). What issue are you against bush on? Seriously. And Fox does trash Bush some. But They not only have hosts who are liberal (mcuh like MSNBC) but also hosts who are conservative which is such a rarity that they say Fox only supports bush. Thats only because they are the ONLY station that has hosts (of their own shows mind you) that are republicans. lol
And that is a decision, to think. To say we're not sure but we're damned sure gonna find out! How is that not decisive? its also really intelligent because it shows you will act to assertain the truth instead of jump to conclusions and then kill a lot of people for the wrong reasons.
And what am I against Bush on? Tellilng America we are going into a country for WMD, then changing up to "they opress women" etc. Mainly because I'm against lying in general. Am I glad we took Sadaam out of Iraq? yes. I'm sad we had to do it for the wrong reasons, because that still makes the rest of the world not like us. Not to mention its just an f'ed up thing to do in general. I'm also against not using due process and getting the rest of the world involved. I'm against drilling in Alaska for oil. I'm against us going into any other countries without UN approval. And I really like him to go after Osama, he seems to have forgotten all about him. I'm against his Social Security plan. I'm against his grammer and the thoroughly irritating way he says "nuclear".
But, to get back to the point, there are parallels to what our government is doing and what the Emperor did to create an Empire. Am I saying Bush wants to be Emperor? Probably, who doesn't? But do I realistically think it can be as obvious as it is in Star Wars? No. But do I think the government has done some shady things to get what they want in order to attain what they want like the Emperor? Yes. Do I think they spin things to be untrue or at least misrepresented? Yes. They've done it for generations. Remember Vietnam? Its politics baby. Its not for the feint of heart. Its ugly, some good does come from it, so does some evil. Are good things always done for the right reasons? no. Do I think that makes it parallel to the Emperor's spinning of the Clone Wars and Jedi trying to arrest him? yes. Again, that's politics. I hope we, in our "modern" world, can keep the next Hitler from rising. And anywhere I see the signs, I will speak out against them. Especially if they are in my own country. Do I think Bush will be Hitler? No. But I do think they have created a nation of fear, a nation afraid to look below the surface and ask questions. And that's wrong. I think it is a method of control, and I don't like it. I don't care who's behind it, its wrong.
No, we shouldn't take his word, the guy WAS crazy, not doubts there. But we should be honest about not being sure and STILL GO IN TO LOOK. I have not said we should not have done what we've done. I'm simply saying we need to look at the reality of why, and make sure we demand more honesty from the officials who ARE ANSWERABLE TO US. We elect them, we pay them, they need to be honest with us. Period.
And again, people's posts on here who seem to be against questioning our government and holding them accountable for what they say and do, are falling into the mindset I laid out earlier, which is the same passive acceptance of what one is told that DOES lead to dictators like the Emperor. Again, the people let libery fall, and they applaud it. Things like the Patriot Act are wrong. Taking out dictators is good. but lets not lie and cheat our way to our goals, thats WRONG.
Yeah, that is a trickey one. It does look like we're gonna have to. But their are alternatives that don't get the research and press they need because of Oil money in politics, and that crosses all parties. Its just sad that its come to that. And there really isn't that much up their, so they're still not gonna stop the problem like government incentives for hybrid cars would be.
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I am not against questioning the government. I am only against demanding that every fact, not matter how classified, be presented for everyone to see regardless of the ramifications.
Points taken but I honestly do not think he was lying about WMD. He truly believed as did most of the countries. The UN couldn't poor pee out of a boot with instructions on the heel. THEY ARE the senate of the real world. Bush really didn't ask for the worlds help. they did it themselves. IMO. but I respect yours and you make a valid point. (BTW I am strongly against bush when it comes to giving illegal aliens jobs that americans do not have yer)
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May 9th, 2005 04:52 AM
And Fox does trash Bush some. But They not only have hosts who are liberal (mcuh like MSNBC) but also hosts who are conservative which is such a rarity that they say Fox only supports bush. Thats only because they are the ONLY station that has hosts (of their own shows mind you) that are republicans. lol
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