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Palpatine and Mace Windu Debate [Merged]
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I believe, it was his true form, also believe he was playing with Mace, like he has been with all the Jedi for, how many years? His greatest ability was to trick and manipulate just about everyone. And yoda, evens, I demand a re-match.
Anyone remember the code Sidios gave to the Clone Trooper, to attack the Jedi?


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I never said he had no trouble with Mace. I believe he was trying to kill Mace at first. When Palpy was on the floor trowing the lightning, he wasnt giving it his all. It was more so in defence of being killed to show Anakin that the Jedi were wrong to try to kill him and that gave Ani the chance to think about what Palpy said about saving Padme. If Sids wanted to overwhelm Mace with the lightning at the time, he could have. The reason he didnt was because he knew that Skywalker had conflict in him, thus giving him more time to think about saving his wife.

Palpy made it look as if he was decaying. He wanted Anakin to think "Look at what Mace is doing to me!" "Im old and weak." And in AOTC, Ani didnt get up right after his ass got filled with lightning. He was on the floor knocked out, with Obi fought Dooku. That was a good 3 min. He came to when Dooku was about to kill Obi. Thats when Ani got up my friend.

I dont think Sids was scared of Yoda. I just think he wanted to avoid the fight. In the saber battle sids was doing very well against Yoda. Yoda was clearly on the attack side, and Sids was blocking everything Yoda was giving him. Force wise, they were even.


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I think sids also didn't want to risk losing to Yoda anymore than Yoda wanted to lose to sids. Palpatine was probably going to get some backup or wait until he had his apprentice at his side. Remember that fear is a big part of the darkside. Palpatine was not brave or courageous - a jedi trait. On the contrary, he was a coward.


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I thought mace's speciality was with his light saber. I thought mace was supposed to be the master of light saber skills. Eigther way, it appears that Palpitine was to much for yoda to handle, Yoda got educated in the dark side.


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I think sids also didn't want to risk losing to Yoda anymore than Yoda wanted to lose to sids. Palpatine was probably going to get some backup or wait until he had his apprentice at his side. Remember that fear is a big part of the darkside. Palpatine was not brave or courageous - a jedi trait. On the contrary, he was a coward.


He diddnt look to cowardly while he was spanking yoda.


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Did you see the movie? If Yoda didn't lose his balance Sidious was toast


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Indeed. Palpy in NO WAY spanked Yoda.

Mace is second only to Yoda in lightsaber skills.

Dark Yoda, youre absolutely right. Excellent explination.


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As final thought, Mace is not more powerful than Sidious. What would have happened if Sidious would have fought like when he did with Yoda? Mace would be on the floor. I still think Sidious let Mace win over him. That's why he never stopped shouting HELP, HELP, ANAKIN HE'S GOING TO KILL ME. He probably forsaw Anakin's arrival and Anakin cutting Mace's hand off, for as soon as he did, Sidious revealed his true self.

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As final thought, Mace is not more powerful than Sidious. What would have happened if Sidious would have fought like when he did with Yoda? Mace would be on the floor. I still think Sidious let Mace win over him. That's why he never stopped shouting HELP, HELP, ANAKIN HE'S GOING TO KILL ME. He probably forsaw Anakin's arrival and Anakin cutting Mace's hand off, for as soon as he did, Sidious revealed his true self.


Agreed 100%

Yoda and Sidious is equal. Mace is not equal with neither. Its that simple.

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As final thought, Mace is not more powerful than Sidious. What would have happened if Sidious would have fought like when he did with Yoda? Mace would be on the floor. I still think Sidious let Mace win over him. That's why he never stopped shouting HELP, HELP, ANAKIN HE'S GOING TO KILL ME. He probably forsaw Anakin's arrival and Anakin cutting Mace's hand off, for as soon as he did, Sidious revealed his true self.


Yeah... Palpatine got up way too fast afterward. And considering how easily he picked Windu up and threw him out the window ought to say something about his power. They even played the evil sith music afterward that hinted at the fact that it was Palpatine manipulating the whole thing.

And to further explain myself regarding Palpatine as a coward... after he was stopped by Yoda he became angry and out of hatred decided he would go ahead and fight Yoda. Fear>Anger>Hate>Suffering


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I think the poll needs to be changed.


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Sidious has the highest percentage of midi-chlorian in him, right after Anakin (who still has more than 2 times Sidious's percentage).

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Sidious has the highest percentage of midi-chlorian in him, right after Anakin (who still has more than 2 times Sidious's percentage).


Sounds like Supershadow to me! roll eyes (sarcastic) laughing


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Yoda>Sidious imo

Sid fights dirty and Yoda got unlucky, he got a flat slippery thing to hold onto, and sidious got a bar to grasp onto.

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In the book sidious wiped Yoda because Yoda wasnt enough, he pretended to be out during the windu fight to make mace kill him something anikan didnt want him to do it was all part off sidioues plan to gain Ani's trust


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The book which is fan written?

Im glad the movie didnt show that. Which would have been a total piece of crap.

I believe the movie showed how it should be. Power wise between Yoda, Sids and Mace. No complaints here.


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Sids would still win


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In that case, im glad he didnt. Yoda is still the man.


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i like yoda


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As final thought, Mace is not more powerful than Sidious. What would have happened if Sidious would have fought like when he did with Yoda? Mace would be on the floor. I still think Sidious let Mace win over him. That's why he never stopped shouting HELP, HELP, ANAKIN HE'S GOING TO KILL ME. He probably forsaw Anakin's arrival and Anakin cutting Mace's hand off, for as soon as he did, Sidious revealed his true self.


If he could see all that, why couldnt he see where luke and leia were. I mean luke wasnt exactly hidden in the most unthinkable places, it was his family family for christ sake? I mean shit...a new york detective could have found luke and leia.


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