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Should Lucas change his mind and go ahead and do Episodes 7, 8 & 9?
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FistOfThe North
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Originally posted by Ushgarak
No, you are mistaken. Star Wars may be set in its own Galaxy, but the story of Star Wars is the story of Anakin Skywalker.


I am not mistaken, Ush. I think you may be. "TPM", "AOTC", "ROTS", "ANH", "ESB", & "ROTJ" was the story of Anakin Skywalker. If quote "Star Wars is the story of Anakin Skywalker", then why do we have every, single pre "TPM" and post "ROTJ" stories titled "Star Wars"? "KOTOR" takes place thousands of years before Anakin was born and it's titled "Star Wars". Then you have "The Unifying Force", which I think takes place 30 to 35 years after "ROTJ", and it's titled "Star Wars."

What I'm saying is, is that "Star Wars" is bigger than Vader. Ep's 1-6, again, which is Vader's story, was just a significant chapter in the "Star Wars" universe continuum.


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I must agree with that statement.

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I also have to agree


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You are speaking franchise now.


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Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
You are speaking franchise now.


"Star Wars" is the franchise yes, but thats out of context and irrelevant to what i'm trying to say, which is that the "Star Wars" story spans thousands of years. And Vader's story (ep.'s 1-6), is somewhere in that massive "Star Wars" timeline, making it untrue that "Star Wars" is Vader's story. It's not. Ep.'s 1-6 are.


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Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I am not mistaken, Ush. I think you may be. "TPM", "AOTC", "ROTS", "ANH", "ESB", & "ROTJ" was the story of Anakin Skywalker. If quote "Star Wars is the story of Anakin Skywalker", then why do we have every, single pre "TPM" and post "ROTJ" stories titled "Star Wars"? "KOTOR" takes place thousands of years before Anakin was born and it's titled "Star Wars". Then you have "The Unifying Force", which I think takes place 30 to 35 years after "ROTJ", and it's titled "Star Wars."

What I'm saying is, is that "Star Wars" is bigger than Vader. Ep's 1-6, again, which is Vader's story, was just a significant chapter in the "Star Wars" universe continuum.


Because people can't come up with their own ideas so they make a story based off the Star Wars movies. Star Wars is Anakin's story.


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Originally posted by Shadow x 20
Star Wars is Anakin's story.


Again, No It's Not. Episodes 1-6 are.


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It's really that Star Wars as created by George Lucas was meant to be the story of the Skywalker family...everything else in the EU is just other people's contribution, but in essence, Star Wars as GL's concept is "The story of the Skywalker Family", that is what he created, everything else is just totally separate.


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The Star Wars Saga (Episodes 1-6) as envisioned by George Lucas is about Anakin Skywalker.

In a larger sense, George has also said that one trilogy is about the parents, and the other is about the kids. So you could make the argument that the Star Wars Saga is also about the Skywalkers. However, Anakin is still the center of the story... his relationship with Padme... his relationship with his son.

Star Wars is also CLEARLY a story about the Jedi and the Sith. Compellng evidence for this is the fact that Anakin (what Star Wars is about) becomes both.

At the end of ROTJ the Sith are destroyed... never to return... if they were to appear again, it devalues the whole Saga. It would be like Sauron coming back in Lord Of The Rings... what was the point of destroying the ring?

The Sith were the absolute sworn enemy of the Jedi that, apart from Anakin, were pure and unredeemable evil. Without such a strong antagonist, the story quickly becomes dull. Even if a Jedi post-ROTJ were to turn evil and use the Dark Side, this is essentially not much different than a new Sith Lord and it devalues what Anakin accomplished by killing Palpatine and eliminating the influence of the Dark Side over the galaxy.

All video games, novels, comics, etc. are all part of the Expanded Star Wars Galaxy NOT envisioned by George Lucas. He lets people play in his universe, so to speak, but he reserves the right to walk all over it if he so desires.

I honestly feel that the story Lucas wanted to tell has been told... anything more is just gratuitous... movies for the sake of movies.

Unless Lucas finds a crafty way out of this problem, there can be no Episode 7 that is compelling or that does not ruin the Saga.

However, I DO feel that it is possible for more movies as long as they are not set after ROTJ.

And I do think a TV series could explore some other stories that might be interesting.

I do love Star Wars... but I don't want to see it driven into the ground.


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Indeed... but do you agree with my rant? shifty


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I didnt read it, it was too long, but I know you, so it is against 7,8,9, so yes I agree. big grin


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Originally posted by FistOfThe North
lol, what do you call ep. 1.

It was regareded as a long commercial.
You want new episodes so bad.. Don't you?
Still.. Don't count on them too much, you can only get dissapointed.


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You want new episodes so bad.. Don't you?
Still.. Don't count on them too much, you can only get dissapointed.


No. I don't.

As I said earlier that "I'm not holding my breath" & "We may not even be here when it happens"

I'd like to see more "SW" ep.'s soon after I sober up after watching the PT. But if it doesn't happen, then I'll settle for the show but i'll tell you this, If I were Lucas, I make 7,8, & but probably a few yrs after "Sith".

And I'd make it with fans in mind and with in depth focus on good detail, continuity, acting. I'd practically make the film as a nod to fans for the support over the years. As opposed to Lucas. "I make the movies cause I like 'em." lol

I'd make fans genuinly proud of "Star Wars" again. My fans would praise my version of Ep.'s 7,8 & 9 because it'll be for them and from them, and not for the loot. I'll be a billionaire already and I'd at least owe fans that much after more that a quarter of a century of SW support..

That what I would do if i were Lucas, but im not, lol


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You can't place a story between episode 6 and the EU. The story ends with ROTJ. Sith are dead. Replacement villains wouldn't be accepted.
It would be almost impossible to fit them in without screwing the SW storyline up and I couldn't imagine a good story too for after ROTJ.

I don't get what attracts you so much to the ep7,8,9 idea.

If there were to be any more SW movies, I hope for stories wich have nothing to do with the other stories like in the far future, extreme past or just another reality.
Just so there can be more freedom for who ever to create a good storyline.


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Ya know I remember reading about the proposed eps 7, 8 and 9 in Starlog back in the 80s I think in a Lucas interview, (before their removal). I think he said they were about the rebuilding of the republic., just as eps 1, 2 and 3 were about its fall.

So that sounds like these purported episodes would be all about political machinations. As there was so much politics in Eps I-III, (and we know how people loved all that stuff), I think the same people who despise the prequels would hate the post-quels just as much.

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Everything outside the movies are called 'Expanded Universe', i.e. spin offs from the story of Anakin. THey're addiotional tidbits, but there will be no more movies. There might be that live action tv series that GL was talking about a few months ago.


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Oh come on now, I would bet that who ever says they would not approave of episode 7,8,9 and lets say they get made, im sure those who were opposed to them would go and watch them.


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