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queeq
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No, spectacular is not the word.

I agree that the romance between Anakin and Padme is important, but their scenes are so crap and unromantic that it doesn't work as a romance. Even John williams great theme can't save the clumsiness of it all. Why an overly politically correct and super just senator would fall in love with a whiny, arrogant, complaining little brat like Anakin is beyond me. Add the horrible Shaak scene and the terrible fireplace scene and it all sucks.
The romance works only in one place: right before the ride into the arena to be executed. Well, for that brief moment I don't need a pointless film like AOTC.


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You're way off. Duh, the point was Anakin's clumsiness! He's an awkward kid around her, heck he dreamed about her every day. That doesn't make the movie bad, it means Anakin has issues. I liked the fireplace scene because the two characters finally talk about their feelings. I'm not saying it's the best scene ever made, but true dialogue doesn't snap, crackle and pop with sitcom-style zingers. There's more than one way to skin a cat.

Again, how can you say the movie's pointless? Their romance spells doom for the republic, and their child helps save the galaxy in ep 6! Attack of the Clones is a pretty damn important movie.

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People trying to defend the prequels please try and gain some insight into how films are made and then you may see how terribly wrong the PT went!


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No, spectacular is not the word.

I agree that the romance between Anakin and Padme is important, but their scenes are so crap and unromantic that it doesn't work as a romance. Even John williams great theme can't save the clumsiness of it all. Why an overly politically correct and super just senator would fall in love with a whiny, arrogant, complaining little brat like Anakin is beyond me. Add the horrible Shaak scene and the terrible fireplace scene and it all sucks.
The romance works only in one place: right before the ride into the arena to be executed. Well, for that brief moment I don't need a pointless film like AOTC.


I agree, John Williams love theme for AOTC is amazing

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The PT did not go terribly wrong, AotC shows us how Padme and Anakin got together, despite the ackwardness of it all, and how the Clone Wars began. I admit the pacing was not the best and it did seem to drag, but it was not horrible. It also shows us how lonely and miserable Padme really was before Annie, which helps us to understand RotS better. All in all, AotC was needed in the PT.

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i dont think Padme was ever happy. Bcuz...


Ep1.. sumone tried to kill her.

Ep2:. sum tried to kill her. PLUS having to debate whether to given in to love or work.

Ep3: the one she love turns to the Dark Side and kills her. And she never got to her babies grow up.


AOTC was the only film where she ever laughed in. That's ONE reason why i cried so hard in ROTS.


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They make it clear that Padme was miserable before Anakin. She was a politician since the age of eight, which means she left her family at an early age, she really had nothing to live for except politics, how fun. In AotC we get to see how happy she becomes afterwards. Once more, AotC was needed in the PT.

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The PT did not go terribly wrong, AotC shows us how Padme and Anakin got together, despite the ackwardness of it all, and how the Clone Wars began. I admit the pacing was not the best and it did seem to drag, but it was not horrible. It also shows us how lonely and miserable Padme really was before Annie, which helps us to understand RotS better. All in all, AotC was needed in the PT.


The PT did go horribly wrong. AotC shows us Padme and Anakin together in a clumsy situation that doesnt feel romantic anyway (think of Han and Leia in the Falcon?).

The pacing shot the film to pieces, both AotC and TPM to be honest.

And Padme doesnt seem miserbale. She eems in control and sure of herself. She was a sentaor with a lot of influence and a good reputation. Things were going rather well for her before Annie turns up in his puden-basin haircut...


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"Her life before Anakin belonged to someone else, some lesser being to be pitied, some poor impoverished spirit who could never suspect how profoundly life should be lived."
Read the book...

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They make it clear that Padme was miserable before Anakin. She was a politician since the age of eight, which means she left her family at an early age, she really had nothing to live for except politics, how fun. In AotC we get to see how happy she becomes afterwards. Once more, AotC was needed in the PT.

I know all that. I was just saying.


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Originally posted by JenR1215
I know all that. I was just saying.


Wasn't singling you out, sorry if you took it that way.
Just trying to let others know that AotC was not a waste of time.

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No! i didnt think that, lol


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I think that AOTC doesn't really play a part in the story of Anakin because it doesn't show any mager arts of his life that turns him into Vader. The only part that links with OT 'cept the wedding which answers Luke's mother. It could atleast of had some of the clone wars storyline.


It did play a part in Anakin's story.
1.) His mother died and that pulled him closer to the dark side.
2.) Wedding
3.) Start of the Clone War. Anakin's power increases a lot over the war and he falls closer to the dark side as well.


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It did play a part in Anakin's story.
1.) His mother died and that pulled him closer to the dark side.
2.) Wedding
3.) Start of the Clone War. Anakin's power increases a lot over the war and he falls closer to the dark side as well.



Your misundertsanding what people are saying. Sure, a few things happened in the PT but know one really cares what happens! Nothing draws you into the movie so you actually care what happens.

The only scene that mananges to do this in the whole PT is the Order 66 scene.


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yeah, RotS was the film about him.


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yeah TPM and ROTS are better than AOTC.


I disagree, completely. I loved all three but the one I watch the most among them is always AOTC.
ex I think you totally misunderstood (or just pretended) what Shadow said, which clearly points out how stupid this thread is.
There's not one single movie in this world that is not flawed, fanboys (I repeat, fanboys) were expecting a sort of "second coming of Jesus" (no offence, I'm Catholic), when in fact they got the prequels. Disappointing huh? roll eyes (sarcastic)


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im dissin PT fanboys fool. dont mess xD

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My only complaint about the PT is the acting.. it is like watching robots... especially in the case of SLJ.. he sucked in ROTS.. he was at his coolest in AOTC... and AOTC was not rushed.... ROTS was rushed...lol...


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I disagree, completely. I loved all three but the one I watch the most among them is always AOTC.
ex I think you totally misunderstood (or just pretended) what Shadow said, which clearly points out how stupid this thread is.
There's not one single movie in this world that is not flawed, fanboys (I repeat, fanboys) were expecting a sort of "second coming of Jesus" (no offence, I'm Catholic), when in fact they got the prequels. Disappointing huh? roll eyes (sarcastic)
Everybody in the world expected interesting and decent movies. Now only the fans can stomach the first two movies. Fact is that people are dissapointed and I can see why although I'm a fan. (unless some people here)


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and AOTC was not rushed.... ROTS was rushed...lol...


RotS did seem rather rushed...

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