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Ushgarak
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Originally posted by PVS
but that bridges my thinking about kenobi taking a drink.
really he's doing a drug when youre realistic about it, so
he is flirting with a dependancy, right?

so he's reckless? i dont think so.
in fact i think its stressed that post ep-1 kenobi is
not only one of the best jedi, but also the equivalent of
a straight and narrow eagle scout type.

so there must be a certain level of allowance imho.


Your point is entirely fair, and I do remember my friends and myself making jokes about which one of those four towers in the Temple was the 'Whore Tower', once we established that it was only attachment that was the problem.

But it we kidmnapped GL and beat him until he cared enough to give an answer, I'm pretty sure he would say that managing your drinking and trying to not give a shit about a baby you have by mistake are two very different things.


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Ki-Adi-Mundi is allowed to have four wives and seven kids! He would never have gotten that many kids if he wasn't allowed sex!


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...my god, do you people even read why he's allowed to do that? The thread is about casual sex anyway, no attachments involved.

The only Jedi I can recall doing it is Quinlan.....and the Jedi didnt seem to mind as much, although he was going to resign from the Order...

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Originally posted by KENobiâ„Ē
This raises a new theory, after Order 66, the few Jedi who survived had to of hooked up with either each other or locals (depending on species, etc) just in case they need to provide the galaxy with new beings who are strong in the Force.


Did the Empire kill off all Force potentials? Say a kid is born with Force potential to become a Jedi, but cant be trained because the Jedi are dead, how did the Empire know/prevent it?

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Leia and Anakin broke the Jedi code, who else has done it?


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Re: Is Sex Forbidden?

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whats this? a topic?

yeah.

i've been wondering...is sex forbidden in the jedi order?
not love/marriage/attachment etc....but just sex.

what throws me off is how kenobi obviously likes to drink.
a drink can certainly be considered a worldly pleasure a.k.a.
getting a buzz. even when persuing an assassin he finds time
to shoot one down. my point? by any logic alcohol is a path
to the darkside. not only that but it dulls the senses.

"but he wasnt ordering a REAL drink, just some blue milk...or something"

bullshit. he bought a shot of booze. why? because he felt like it.

so what do you think? in a scenario of mutual consent with no
attachment, are the jedi allowed to get it on?


yeah they can.. if they have enough republic credits wink


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LOL, boba had enough of those for that dancer in Jabbas palace.


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Ki-Adi-Mundi is allowed to have four wives and seven kids! He would never have gotten that many kids if he wasn't allowed sex!


He was allowed to have children because the Cerean birthrate was too low. I think that sex is forbidden (unless with Ki-Adi-Mundi's case) because it might lead to attachment to the Jedi's partner and possibly children. Ki-Adi-Mundi felt strong feelings of attachment to his family, until they were killed in the Clone Wars


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Originally posted by Darth Zhin
okay, letīs get serious.

Probably sex is forbidden because the posibilities of creating attachments because of it are to many.

I donīt mean just kids and a family, which are attachments but suppouse that the jedi had sex regulary with the same partner... that could lead to an emotional attachment. Attachment means being depandant of the other (as the other is dependant of us) and that could weaken the Jediīs resolve making him vulnerable to fall to other temptations (Dark Side, you name it).

So sex must be forbidden.... in the Jediīs case


That sounds correct to me.

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Yeup


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Maybe Anakin knocked up Padme was because so many human Jedis were getting killed and he decided that it was his duty to help repopulate the human Jedi race.


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whats this talk of children?
i posted later that this sex would be protected.
i should have thought to add that to my initial post, my bad.
and im sure in a universe so advanced, a method of
birth control would have been created with has a 100%
effectiveness. (please don't say "abstinence")
lets just assume thats the case, and thus there is no
chance of reproduction.

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Well this was a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. Who knows if they have protection or not?


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If they can pick things up, choke people, and throw things. Just imagine what one could do to you.


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Originally posted by PVS
whats this talk of children?
i posted later that this sex would be protected.
i should have thought to add that to my initial post, my bad.
and im sure in a universe so advanced, a method of
birth control would have been created with has a 100%
effectiveness. (please don't say "abstinence")
lets just assume thats the case, and thus there is no
chance of reproduction.


That's just loading the question. I don't agree, I am pretty sure they would want to stomp out all risk.

Ki-Adi's family is entirely EU, folks.


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That's just loading the question. I don't agree, I am pretty sure they would want to stomp out all risk.

Ki-Adi's family is entirely EU, folks.


not loading the question at all ush.
stop thinking in terms of reality and think in terms of
a universe where you can have a severed hand replaced
by a fully functional and feeling hand. a universe of every
concievable medical marvel besides raising the dead, and
its not too difficult to imagine. not only the possibility of such,
but the probablility of it.

i know im digging deep, but the whole topic is digging deeper
than GL would even care to ponder, so humor me.

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I think every grown up jedi can make his own choices and they're trained to know whats good and wrong. When a pretty girl tells Obi she always dreamed of having sex with a mighty jedi, I'm sure he would fullfill her wish, without becoming attached to her. He would help her and that's the jedi way.


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Of course after Order 66 the jedi order is no more, it has ceased to be, itīs expired and gone to meet itīs maker, etc. Then the code is also dead.

So after Order 66 the remaing Jedi can have all the sex they want.

That means Luke and Leia never broke the code.... there is no code


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wasn't there a theory once (I don't say it's canon) but that after Anakin became Vader the balance in the Force was so broken no more Jedi potentials were born...heard that somewhere

anyway yes sex is forbidden, Anakin saw it as a danger to tell Obi-Wan because he was so afraid to get closed out because he was married and he knocked up his wife...all too wrong lol!

I don't think drinking is forbidden as long as you can keep yourself sober...at least sober enough to not make attachments...like...SEX!!!


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Originally posted by PVS
not loading the question at all ush.
stop thinking in terms of reality and think in terms of
a universe where you can have a severed hand replaced
by a fully functional and feeling hand. a universe of every
concievable medical marvel besides raising the dead, and
its not too difficult to imagine. not only the possibility of such,
but the probablility of it.

i know im digging deep, but the whole topic is digging deeper
than GL would even care to ponder, so humor me.


Maybe some Jedi that are not mentioned even in the least known of EU books were married with other Jedi (either in the PT era or the Sith Wars) and thus transmitted their Force-sensitivity genes.

As for the medical marvels, why would Padmé die after giving birth to their Force-sensitive children (while she only has 1 recessive Force-sensitivity gene out of the two needed to become Force-sensitive)? This is where reality meets SW.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by PVS
not loading the question at all ush.
stop thinking in terms of reality and think in terms of
a universe where you can have a severed hand replaced
by a fully functional and feeling hand. a universe of every
concievable medical marvel besides raising the dead, and
its not too difficult to imagine. not only the possibility of such,
but the probablility of it.

i know im digging deep, but the whole topic is digging deeper
than GL would even care to ponder, so humor me.


the fact remains however, that according to canon its a no no isnt it? You've kind of strayed off into EU territory.

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