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jedi212guy
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Lucas will HAVE to explain mc better, or else they should have never have been introduced into the movie. mad


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Jameous Woodshire
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According to an interview RM did almost a year ago, MC's will be further explained along with the disappearing trick.

I believe Vader did not disappear, not until his armor was burned. Otherwise GL would have shown it. He showed Yoda and sort of showed Obi do it, so why not Vader/Ani? Because Ani didn't fade away! It's that simple.

Ani's ghost is seen later as showing his journey is complete, but the two are not completely linked in that way.

Too many things have been read into this and I think it's as simple as the movies have shown. ONLY Obi and Yoda disappear, and Ani DOES show as a ghost because his journey is over. But the two are not linked at all.

Like I said before we only have a few meager months to find out a lot more. big grin


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jedi212guy
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9 is little more than a few! I am going to go crazy!!!!!!!!!!


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Jameous Woodshire
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Well, we waited 15 years for EP1 so I think I can wait 9 more months smile

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That was great!


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Jameous Woodshire
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It's from my all time favorite comic strip, Bloom County.

That one was made in '83-4. sometime in there. He did that theme all week and I had them on my wall way back when.

BTW Luke was played by Binkley one of Bloom's stars.


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the more i think about the ghosts the more i think its got to do with the prophecy , ob1 - trained the chosen one, yoda trained the chosen one, they then both trained the chosen ones son, he then turned the chosen one back to the good side thus bringing balance to the force. perhaps ghosts have got to do with the prophecy?


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Wouldn't that be knowledge for all the Jedi?? So every Jedi, should know that.

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Ushgarak
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Jameous- as I have said to the contrary, I think Anakin's ghost form is clear proof that he disappeared inside his suit. And while not canonical I have support from Stepehn Sansweet (fan relations), Rick McCallum and the official web site.

The evidence in favour of Anakin disappearing is very strong.


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Clearly more proof than proof of him NOT disappearing.. The only problem that people ever have with it is that the haven't actually SEEN it. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Does everyone need to see that even when EVERY little thing points out to it??

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Always seemed pretty clear to me, anyhow.


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"You've never had any TINY bit of sex, have you?"

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Well, I'm not convienced.

Luke wouldn't have struggled with Vaders empty suit, unless there was a body in it. They also would have shown him dissapear. Period.

I would like to see your proof from RM and Sandsweet, it would help convence me.

Otherwise we are just standing here saying "my brothers bigger than yours" and arent getting anything acomplished.


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Just go to SW.com and look it up. It;s in the databanks and RM and SS both say it in 'Ask the Jedi Council' reponses.

But as far as actual PROOF is concerned; well, if one side had THAT we wouldn't be all day here arguing about it...


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Well Sandsweet answered the question, (RM had nothing to say about it) but I still have a problem with it.

Jedi Deaths

I still say if Ani/Vader dissapeared:
1: Why didn't they show it? It is his story after all, why not show the transition into the force?

2: Luke was a wuss, and a whiner, but I think he was strong enough to pull an empty suit of armor easer than he did. Even with going through that fight and all that. He shouldnt have struggled with it.

Maybe the ultimate DVD version will change that to show him dissapear, but untill then I go by what I've seen on film as canon. I know I'm being thick headed on this one, but thats just the way I see it.


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Anakin not being seen to disappear is a deliberatre trick, because his appearance in ghost form is meant to be a surprise.

Meanwhile, Luke is weak after his treatment and that suit is FULL of cyber-gear! Probbaly very heavy.


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"You've never had any TINY bit of sex, have you?"

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KJ
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Where is this scene where Luke struggles to carry the suit?

quote:
, George Lucas does have a reason for treating these Jedi deaths differently
- Steve Sansweet

That backs up my point that it's related to the Prophecy.


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where he helps vader to the emperial shuttle, takes his mask off and then pulls the body onboard, quite why not one of the empirials asked what Luke was doing with their leaders body, who knows.


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I can't remember him pulling the body on board.


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It's in ROTJ, not ANH wink

I still think that Annakin not dissappearing is done so, and him returning as a ghost is than to say: He IS the chosen one, he brought balance in the force by killing himself, etc.

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