"OB1 quote from ANH: "When I met your father, he was an insecure, fumbling boy who did his first steps in flying, who just had some beginner's luck." OOOOPPPPSSSS. No that's not it, it's: "When I met your father, he WAS ALREADY A GREAT PILOT!!!!!!!!!!!" The TP editor made OB1 be correct. "
As far as ob1 knew, anakin was a great pilot, he won the race and saved the ship and he also blew up the droid ship at the end, in ob1's vision anakin was a great pilot because ob1 wasn't at any of these events and only had the actual results of the events to rate him on
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Queeq were not going to agree on this so I'm going to bow out of this one.
Ush Lucas himself said it in on of the books. It's not the "making of TPM" book but I think it was one of the visual dictionaries. He said that the Gungans had weapons, sheilds and an army because the live in a very dangerous enviroment in Otah Gunga.
Common sense says "Why did this peacfull people with NO milatary enemy have an army?"
The answer is to protect them from the sea creatures as Lucas said. How do you know that their energy spheres didn't work under water?
Ok, we can't make any such blanket directions and be in any way correct about them, KJ...
Those enrgy spheres were fired by projectile weapons and burst on impact. Unless they were self-propelled (and they weren't), they would be USELESS underwater.
But I wasn't disagreeing with you, KJ; I just thought it would have been cool if we had seen such a battle.
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No, we won't agree, I think, KJ, which is fine. Consensus sucks.
But I do think that GL suffers from overexplanation on some counts. I mean, I personally couldn't care less why one people has an army and another not. Why do France, Germany, Italy and Austria have armies and Switzerland who lies right in the middle of these countries NOT have an army? Different philosophies. We already know the SW Universe is a dangerous place, it's perfectly normal to have some kind of army. We don't NEED these explanations.
Besides, from JarJar comments on having an army while on Corscant we know that the Gungans feel strongly about warrior status, maybe that's part of their philosophy. That explains more than enough THAT and in a way WHY they have an army. I don't need a double bill of eating fish to explain that to me.
Switzerland DOES have an army
and the Naboo is a very friendly people, even the police are made from volunteers!
The Gungans say that going to the core is bad-boming so that could indicate that they sometimes need weapons when they are in the sea.
When Lucas said that I assumed the sheilds were to keep the sea creatures away from Otah Gunga and the weapons and armies were for hunting. I think they probably hunt some of the fish for food.
The energy spheres I thought were like mines. They would float around underwater warning off any creatures.
I'm late joining this thread, and the subject has kind of moved on, but on the subjct of the redundancy of the Bongo sequence: unless I completely misunderstood it, I thought it was excellent.
I think the point was that QGJ called the Bigger fish. Hence his relaxed, sarcastic "There's always a bigger fish" and Obi-Wan's "I think you over did it" line when the second, even bigger fish arrives.
So it served two important purposes:
1) It expanded the Jedi skill-set, along with the force push we now know Jedi can 'call' creatures to their locale. An excellent trait that will no doubt feature in EpII and III (I hope).
2) It showed QGJ to be over-zealous, perhaps even sloppy.
Ok, that's all subtle, so it fails on that count, but redundant? I don't think so.
I don;t think we were meant to think that QGJ called the fish. He was making a general point at once encompassing the food chain and real life.
QGJ's motivation was alwyas 'The Force Will Guide Us'
From where he is arguing from, queeq is right, there is nothing in the Bongo sequence that was either essential or not done elsewhere, but that doesn't necessarily mean it should not have been in. You can strip a story TOO far down to its basics.
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