I'd make a completely different feeling trilogy by adding Count Dooku to Episode 1. I think if there would have been interaction between Qui-Gon and Dooku in Episode 1 and having them discuss "a change" that needed to be made because of the changing times and the Jedi becoming obselete or something it would have added to the whole underlying aspect of the Jedi being an old religion. It would have also made the characters of Qui-Gon and Dooku much deeper and it would make Episode 2 make more sense for people.
Example:
Episode 1-
When Qui-Gon learns of Anakin's potential he contacts Dooku on Coruscant, risking being discovered by sending a transmission outside the planet thereby tipping off Darth Maul, telling him he "might have found an answer" to their problems. That would add more tragedy to Anakin, making him nothing more than a servant to everyone, except Padme.
On Coruscant I would show a scene where Qui-Gon meets with Dooku to discuss their plans and they mention how they need to have Anakin trained so he could continue where they leave off since they are getting old. (They're trying to start a different Jedi order, Dooku has felt the presence of the Sith and feel the Jedi are helpless because of their "old ways") When Qui-Gon is killed Dooku then decides a drastic measure is needed and we don't find out until Episode 2 that he has joined Darth Sidious but has become corrupted by getting too close. So at first when he's trying to convince Obi-Wan we feel he might be genuine in his thoughts, we later find out he has pretty much lost it.
Oh!!, and get rid of Jar Jar!!
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I would have rewritten a good deal of the dialogue, for starters.
1.) Eliminate Jar Jar from the movies all together. (We get enough pandering to the inner-child with the Ewoks.)
2.) Show Dooku on the Jedi Council in TPM, give him some Ki-Adi Mundiesque lines. Reveal later that he trained Maul and Grievous, but not as a Sith. Of course, some more time in ROTS as well. This should more mystery to the Sith.
3.) Make it so that Qui-Gon doesn't look like he's trying get over his kidney stones, show some more facial expressions. And not so much a monotone voice.
4.) Yoda doesn't fight 'til ROTS.
5.) Both Anakin and Padme's characters need serious revising. Their age, actors, relationship, the whole shi-bang. Anakin will be more mature, Padme will wear less revealing clothes (AOTC.) Anakin will be a tough nut to crack when it comes to his fall, not the pushover doormat we love so much. Padme will not die from "losing the will to live."
6.) The camera does NOT pan to Palpatine at the end of TPM. Palaptine will also refrain from giggling at his Kermit-like adversary in ROTS. Said Kermit will also not be jumping around everywhere like he has ADD.
7.) The Clone Wars will start at the end of TPM. And I like the idea of Jango not existing, leaving Boba untouched by Lucas.
8.) The Temple slaughter will be in greater detail. Mace's Posse will last longer and die cooler. Mace will die the same way, but this time his body is in some way or another, incinerated so no chances of him returning from the dead in comics or such stuff. Same goes for Maul.
9.) The battle droids will STFU.
10.) Anakin and Obi's relationship will be less like "pissant student and irritated teacher" and more like "you were my" brother(s).
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-Have the Anakin/Padme love story be done with by the end of Episode One. Introduce Anakin as a Padawan learner in Episode One, being trained by Obi-Wan Kenobi and make it so their bond is already very strong.
-Take out Dooku and GG completely.
-Have Maul be the reoccurring villain Give him more depth and a backstory.
-Have Padme get pregnant in Episode 2 and give birth by the end of the movie.
-Show much, much more of the Clone Wars in Episode 2. Have Anakin be away at war while Padme gives birth to the twins.
-Show much more of the Purge as well.
-Have the Anakin/Obi-Wan duel end in a different way. No "I have the high ground" BS.
-Have Yoda vs. Sidious be the most epic duel of the trilogy, but have Anakin vs. Obi-Wan be the most emotional.
-Build up the bond between Obi-Wan/Anakin throughout each film so that you truly feel bad for each character when their duel comes.
-More Darth Vader (in the suit)
-No Jar Jar whatsoever.
That's all for now. I might add more later. Let me know what you guys think.
You've got to be kidding!! Personally I think the exact opposite should happen. Take out Maul and have Dooku as the main villan. Maul was an ok character but he was just there to look cool. He didnt do much for the storyline and he has literally about 10 seconds of dialogue. I cant imagine him being a prominent villan, leading the CIS etc.
Dooku couldn't last that long either, he was cool, but not enough Badass villain, not evil enough, I was expecting better Sith (more like the Ancient Ones from the KoToR series) when the Prequels came out
Assuming the whole birth happened earlier in EP2 instead of the end of EP3....
-Show at least a teaser at or near the end of EP3 with a young Han Solo. Have him have an eary run in with Jabba, and shortly thereafter, Boba Fett. I just feel Solo was too central in IV - VI to have been avoided completely in the prequel.
Yeah I would agree with that. I found that high ground bit to be very weak and took me ages to figure it out. When I did figure it out I thought it was very dumb
I'd keep Jar Jar in of course, he'd get blown to pieces in the first movie though and clone wars would occur immediately. Showing more of the jedi council and more goddamn war just as I expected of the PT.
The PT would have been the darker period of the saga. So far I've only seen a kids movie, a romantic movie and what would have been the actual atmosphere of the saga only until the last movie.
Well your opinions are yours and you are entitled to them. Just thinkof it this way his sarcasm was the comic relief, if you will, of te original trilogy. And for the prequel, we got Jar Jar. Han Solo > Jar Jar... Thank you, goodnight :P
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- No Jar-Jar Binks.
- No cutting the Darth Maul/Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan fight.
Episode II:
- More Count Dooku/Darth Sidious interaction, perhaps via hologram.
- More Nute Gunray scenes (I like Gunray... ).
- More Yoda/Mace/Palpatine interaction (those three way scenes are cool).
- Have Jango Fett kill more than Coleman Trebor.
- Don't kill Jango Fett (have Jango Fett become a P.O.W in the 'rise of the Empire' era or killed off at Mustafar).
- Have Anakin being blasted into a wall, and then Dooku disable Obi-Wan. Anakin then battles Count Dooku, making it a tough fight (thus accentuating his power and potential - the movies didn't do that good of a job) - before Dooku outmaneuvers him and amputates his arm.
- No Yoda vs. Dooku. Replace it with Count Dooku vs. Mace Windu - a confrontation between two former friends and companions - with ultimately Dooku fleeing.
Episode III:
- A final dogfight with Obi-Wan vs. Jango Fett - with ultimately Fett dying.
- Anakin and Obi-Wan board the Invisible Hand, and are confronted by General Grievous and Count Dooku. Both fights are almost evenly matched, until Grievous and Dooku manage to escape - leaving Obi-Wan and Anakin to die.
- No gay love-lines between Padme and Anakin.
- Send in Obi-Wan and a team of Jedi to kill Grievous. Make it a good fight - with Obi-Wan and Grievous dueling epically before Grievous is killed.
- Palpatine's exposure much more believable.
- Anakin and Mace are assigned to arrest the Chancellor, as a test by the Jedi to cement his place with them - and Mace goes to watch over the boy. Send in ten trained Jedi Knights. Have Sidious disable - but not kill - Windu and have him slaughter the others.
- Anakin is seduced by Palpatine in a more believable manner (make the decision difficult) and have him execute Windu for his initation.
- Palpatine activates Order 66 - and sends Anakin and the 501st to kill the Jedi at the Temple.
- Palpatine then sends Anakin to Mustafar with a contingent of Stormtroopers to kill the remaining CIS leaders. Have a small mini-duel between Anakin and Dooku - with ultimately Dooku being beheaded or cast into lava.
- Anakin vs. Obi-Wan has a lot more of Anakin's dominance, and Obi-Wan relying on his defenses and the environment to hold his own.
- Yoda vs. Sidious - with it accentuated that these two are Force gods. A small lightsaber fight ontop of the podium, with ultimately Yoda disarming Sidious - but being blasted over the edge by Force lightning. Dozens upon dozens of pods should be lifted, with Sidious chucking them all at Yoda - who skillfully (and Matrix-like) dodges them. He then tackles Sidious, flips over him, and prepares to deliver the final blow - before being blasted into a wall, his lightsaber destroyed, and blown right out of the Rotunda.
- Anakin falls into lava due to stupid charge. Obi-Wan is breathless, tired, and thoroughly exhausted and bloody - showing that he is the inferior of the two in skill.
- Play out.
I agree with everything you just posted. Although I would introduce Dooku in TPM. Have him as the dominant villan throughout the PT (although still being told what to do by Sids).
I like the idea of Mace vs Dooku in AOTC. Have it with the roof falling down, blaster fire from clones etc etc. Make it look spectacular.
And finally have Dooku killed by Anakin in the end of ROTS like you said, to take his rightful place as apprentice. And no flimsy, 2 minute piece of sh*t either (which is what we got). Have a climactic battle, on a slightly lower level than Sids vs Yoda. But I would still have Dooku beheaded. That scene may be my least fav out of all of them but, the acting there is superb. Two thumbs up to Christopher Lee.
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