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I agree with everything you just posted. Although I would introduce Dooku in TPM. Have him as the dominant villan throughout the PT (although still being told what to do by Sids).
I like the idea of Mace vs Dooku in AOTC. Have it with the roof falling down, blaster fire from clones etc etc. Make it look spectacular.
And finally have Dooku killed by Anakin in the end of ROTS like you said, to take his rightful place as apprentice. And no flimsy, 2 minute piece of sh*t either (which is what we got). Have a climactic battle, on a slightly lower level than Sids vs Yoda. But I would still have Dooku beheaded. That scene may be my least fav out of all of them but, the acting there is superb. Two thumbs up to Christopher Lee.



Kinda like what I said in my post, Rampant? Giving Dooku some time in TPM to discuss plans with Qui-Gon will give his character some more depth.


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I agree with everything you just posted. Although I would introduce Dooku in TPM. Have him as the dominant villan throughout the PT (although still being told what to do by Sids).


Absolutely not.

The dominant villain of the PT - and the OT for that matter - is Emperor Palpatine. George Lucas originally intended for that to be so, and has addressed that he is "the ultimate villain" and the ultimate evil" in Star Wars.

Count Dooku was, would, and should be perceived as nothing but a lackey . That'd be like making Mystique the dominant X-Men villain instead of Magneto. Makes no sense and would be completely stupid.

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I like the idea of Mace vs Dooku in AOTC. Have it with the roof falling down, blaster fire from clones etc etc. Make it look spectacular.


This, I could agree with. It would be a pure stalemate though. No Dooku dominance, at all. No Mace dominance. For every move Dooku would land, Mace would nail one too.

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And finally have Dooku killed by Anakin in the end of ROTS like you said, to take his rightful place as apprentice. And no flimsy, 2 minute piece of sh*t either (which is what we got).


Yup.

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Have a climactic battle, on a slightly lower level than Sids vs Yoda.


No. Dooku's not a main character.

They're fight should logically be a tier below.

Anakin, Padme, Obi-Wan, Palpatine, and Yoda take that spot. Supporting roles include: Mace Windu, Count Dooku, General Grievous, Bail Organa, Mon Mothma and Nute Gunray.

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But I would still have Dooku beheaded. That scene may be my least fav out of all of them but, the acting there is superb. Two thumbs up to Christopher Lee.


Maybe.

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How about reshooting instead of re-editing.


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Kinda like what I said in my post, Rampant? Giving Dooku some time in TPM to discuss plans with Qui-Gon will give his character some more depth.



Yup, pretty much. yes


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Originally posted by Escape81 Absolutely not.

The dominant villain of the PT - and the OT for that matter - is Emperor Palpatine. George Lucas originally intended for that to be so, and has addressed that he is "the ultimate villain" and the ultimate evil" in Star Wars.


The dominant villan is and should always be Darth Sidious. What I meant was (sorry you misenterpreted) that Dooku should be the face of villany. Make it clear that he is taking orders from Sids etc, and make Sids look more evil, but just have Dooku as the person the galaxy fears. Whenever they hear the word evil they think Dooku - not Sids. Sids should be shown in the background pulling the strings, much like he was in TPM and AOTC.

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Count Dooku was, would, and should be perceived as nothing but a lackey . That'd be like making Mystique the dominant X-Men villain instead of Magneto. Makes no sense and would be completely stupid.


I agree. Make sure that it is esatblished that there is someone higher up than Dooku, but just have Dooku as more of the face of villany. Just like Vader was for the OT. Everyone feared Vader but in the end it was Sids making all the decisions. And you cant really compare Sids and Magneto. I think they are both great characters but Magneto is a more out there person who makes sure he is known to everyone. Sids just sits back and pulls strings while his lackeys do the work.

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This, I could agree with. It would be a pure stalemate though. No Dooku dominance, at all. No Mace dominance. For every move Dooku would land, Mace would nail one too.


I agree. And make sure it is a stalemate, showing clearly to the the audience that one side of the force is not stronger than the other. Having Dooku only retreat when a battalion of jedi arrive and ignite their sabers for example.

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No. Dooku's not a main character.

They're fight should logically be a tier below.

Anakin, Padme, Obi-Wan, Palpatine, and Yoda take that spot. Supporting roles include: Mace Windu, Count Dooku, General Grievous, Bail Organa, Mon Mothma and Nute Gunray.
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I agree. Although I would put Mace and Dooku above the other 4. The others were more supporting characters for the supporting characters if you know what I mean. Either way I think that both Mace and dooku should have got more screen time. i was gutted with the Counts pathetic 2 minute performance. Shame on you GL!!


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I think some of you are grossly over estimating the job of an editor...


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I think some of you are grossly over estimating the job of an editor...


I know. I made my corrections as if I had Lucas's job. stick out tongue

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Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
I think some of you are grossly over estimating the job of an editor...


I think you underestimate it.


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Yeah, you're probably right... I'm sure a talented editor could creatively cut Episode I so that Anakin appears ten years older. erm


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Hehehehehe...

That's why I asked earlier... how about reshooting.

But then again... ILM can actually make Anakin look 10 years younger, I'm sure.


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I kinda like it that Anakin's a kid in Ep 1.

Star Wars is and has always been about the hero's journey. Anakin's a good kid, in fact he only furrows his brow I think twice in all of Ep. 1, (once at Sebulba, and later at Yoda!)

Lucas's point was how this sweet innocent boy turns into Darth Vader. I don't mind that he fell for Natalie Portman, she had so many movies where men... way older men, fell for her!

But more importantly, it's Lucas' appeal that young people can do great things. They can be heroes. They can make good choices, and they can make bad ones, which can have awful consequences. When young people see young people on screen doing heroic deeds, it can give them an attitude that they can do it too.

The kids I saw Episode 1 with loved it that the kid could do so much. Fix a racer. Win a pod race. Pilot a fighter into space battle. What a dream for a kid! They loved it.

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I don't mind that Anakin was a kid. I just wish he would of accompplished things through skill and intelligence as opposed to "oH. WhAt doeS THIS butTON dO?!?" *every droid explodes*.


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Dido on the last 2 posts...Ep. I had to be the way it was...It's the beginning of Star Wars, and the beginning of the main character...

There needed to be a whole film on Anakin when he was young so we would know the child, and eventually understand and sympathise with the person behind the mask...too bad it was just kinda boring.


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More effort on the Clone Wars could be helpful in that respect too...war changes people and Lucas could make that a MAJOR motivation for the decay of many of the characters between (even before) 2 and 3.


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I would have liked to have seen the nicer sides of Anakin as an adult. Just to understand why Padme would fall in love with the guy or why OB1 would look back lovingly in ANH saying "... and he was a good friend." I saw too little of that, seems like no one ever liked the guy. So why would we?


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I would have liked to have seen the nicer sides of Anakin as an adult. Just to understand why Padme would fall in love with the guy or why OB1 would look back lovingly in ANH saying "... and he was a good friend." I saw too little of that, seems like no one ever liked the guy. So why would we?


I hated Anakin throughout the whole PT, with his Vader "Transformation" he wasn't a badass, he was a Whimpy Bastard, where did OT Vader come from? Definately not that man

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HE had 20 years to mature. LOL


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not really. I consider ROTJ and ANH his immature period. There are a lot of similarities...namely stupid humor surronding retarded species accedentally blowing up things much bigger than they should ever be capable of. And they end in parties....i mean...wtf?


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I was talking about Anakin, not Lucas. laughing out loud


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ah...welll if Lucas doesn't mature...how can we expect Anikan to?


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Good point.


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