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He is.. hehehehe
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Oct 16th, 2006 07:37 AM
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You seem to like this thread.
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Oct 16th, 2006 01:59 PM
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I like all threads..
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Oct 16th, 2006 02:36 PM
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Me too.
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Oct 16th, 2006 03:55 PM
queeq
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Good.. post more.
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Oct 16th, 2006 05:32 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Mistake #1...you're letting me get to you.
Not really, If i stop posting THEN you got to me
quote: (post ) Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Mistake #2...You're looking at everything from "logical...logical,". I'm not arguing that it's not logical. Never did. I'm not saying it's not clever. Never did. And I'm not saying it's a stretch....I just think it's ugly! It's just my opinion man.
Ok. And in my opinon your opinon is dumb
quote: (post ) Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
I think an Imperial Stormtrooper is one of the coolest things I've ever seen...honestly...and man, do you have any idea how many Star Wars Stormtrooper freaks out there who would agree with me on that? People just go nuts over Stormtroopers...don't know why it is.
I liked them too, thier destruction at Endor makes me hate the majority of ROTJ. Scout Troopers are even more brilliant.
....but then I learned about clones. People would be a lot more obsessed if they could easily buy clonetrooper armor. The clones have way more character and way more depth that is physiologically possible with stormtroopers. Their intelligence, depth, culture, abuse, and the nature of the Clone Wars gives them this...stormies can never have any of those things.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
On the other hand, I don't think a Clone Trooper strikes the same chord with me or with a lot of other Star Wars fans...simply because it's just not that great.
I don't think many Star Wars fans WANT to stike a chord with the PT. Most are blinded by the superficial over-glorification of the OT.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
And furthermore, I can undersatnd that this is what might happen if people's artistrty is limited by restrictions such as continuity.
I'm an artist myself. One of if perhaps the best aspects of Star Wars to me is the art. I'm telling you from experience, working towards a goal is not THAT artistically limiting. You complain about artistic limitations, but then complain about the incredible variaton in the PT which came about from the diversity of the creative process. This makes no sense.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Mistake #3...You're arguing your point from a practicality point of view..."Stormtroopers are wimps, Clone Troopers are kick-ass." I never argued that...I just said from the very beginning that they're ugly, contrived and uninspired...as is a lot of stuff in the PT.
I'm not just arguing practicality. I've repeatedly stated other reasons, such as artistry, culture, and ther abuse....not to mention their role in the CLone wars and Mando culture.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
...probably because you're really excited about defending clone troopers.
They are my Mando'ade. Coruscanta kandosii adu.
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Oct 16th, 2006 07:07 PM
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Errr.... yeah. I guess....
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Oct 16th, 2006 09:47 PM
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*hums to self*
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Oct 16th, 2006 10:00 PM
queeq
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Yeah... someone who understands your mutterings.
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Oct 16th, 2006 10:01 PM
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di'kut.
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Oct 16th, 2006 10:19 PM
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Oh Yeah? 2 can play at that game!
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Alliance
The clones have way more character and way more depth that is physiologically possible with stormtroopers. Their intelligence, depth, culture, abuse, and the nature of the Clone Wars gives them this...stormies can never have any of those things.
At the end of the day, most people don't care about that stuff...especially when it's buying a costume...They care about how cool it looks, and in this case, how cool Stormtoopers look. If they aren't in fact interesting as you say, then why all the Stromtooper nuts? Cause they look cool-ass...and all I've ever been talking about until now is the look, the look, the look.
Stormtroopers look cool...Clone Troopers look lame. Snowtroopers look awesome...ARC Troopers look like clowns...Biker Scouts look sweet...(insert random pick from one of the many unisinspired, thrown-together crap troopers in ROTS)...look darn ugly.
I'm an artist too, and that's my opinion...even if you think it's dumb.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Alliance
Most are blinded by the superficial over-glorification of the OT.
That's heresy!
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Alliance
You complain about artistic limitations, but then complain about the incredible variaton in the PT which came about from the diversity of the creative process. This makes no sense.
Let's try this one more time..."Tie-in" stuff...limited. "Non tie-in" stuff...not limited. Sounds kinda familiar.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Don't even get me started on the Phase I variants...That blue ARC trooper dude with the shoulder pads and kilt...oh my. What an embarassment to the franchise.
H-How??
quote: By sith, a couple of the Phase II variants start to look alright (like Commander Appo of the 501st)...because they're basically slightly altered stormtroopers at that point. Phase I is just another failed and ugly attempt at linking the PT to the OT.
I think thats rather unfair... then again, to each their own n all...
quote: (post ) Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
I think an Imperial Stormtrooper is one of the coolest things I've ever seen...honestly...and man, do you have any idea how many Star Wars Stormtrooper freaks out there who would agree with me on that? People just go nuts over Stormtroopers...don't know why it is.
Stormtroopers are awesome, thats true... if only they could shoot straight...
quote: On the other hand, I don't think a Clone Trooper strikes the same chord with me or with a lot of other Star Wars fans...simply because it's just not that great.
Stormtroopers are iconic, clones were introduced in what many feel is the worst of the star wars movies... not very fair is it?
quote: And when it comes to the ARC trooper...I think it's hideous.
as i said, to each their own...
and as far as the pt goes, the clones are, imo, one of the greatest contributions to the saga made by the pt...
and i love scout troopers too, but i liked rotj too...
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Oct 17th, 2006 12:14 AM
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PLus Clones develop too fast to get used to ONE look... Stormtroopers last three films, no wonder they are iconic. PLUS they were original.
I like the Clones, but they play too small a prt to be really interesting. I tend to agree with EPIII...
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Clones + Stormtroopers = BORING
Can we get back to the ships please?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Clones + Stormtroopers = BORING
quote: (post ) Originally posted by queeq
Good.. post more.
Threads?
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Oct 17th, 2006 02:11 PM
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Good point...ships.
Love that solar sailor...probably scientifically impossible, but hey it's SW and anything flies. Comes in a cool cooper finish and makes a really neat sound too!
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Oct 17th, 2006 03:36 PM
queeq
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ~Kongu_Dude~
Threads?
IN threads...
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Oct 17th, 2006 03:57 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by queeq
IN threads...
Maybe Both.
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Oct 17th, 2006 05:05 PM
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Good...
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