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In ANH, during the cantina part, did OB1 kill that guy or slice his hand off? I don't recall, he may be another one...
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Dec 17th, 2006 10:58 PM |
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That was an arm...and it bled...so we disqualify that.
Yoda also had his hand sliced off, but Lucas decided not to include that since Yoda's facade was too important to protect.
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Dec 17th, 2006 11:00 PM |
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He did??? What a terrible idea.
If we inlcude the ANH cantina, we can also include the AOTC bar one... but the are arms.
IMHO... too many hands got cut off. It's Lucas' inflation of a good concept: he uses it too much.
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Dec 17th, 2006 11:01 PM |
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I have a bad feeling about this.
Bottomless shafts in enclosed spaces.
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Dec 17th, 2006 11:02 PM |
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Yeah... those too.... but they are minor, since the hands getting cut off were pretty crucial in the Luke-Vader relationship. Since everyone gets their hands cut of, it loses its meaning of destiny and choice of the path you're gonna walk.
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Dec 17th, 2006 11:05 PM |
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Enforcer of the Republic
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If you forget, Vader forced Luke down a bottomless shaft....
...that would be a significant development in a relationship with anyone that I know.
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Dec 17th, 2006 11:08 PM |
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Err.... yeah, in a way.
But the cut-off hand of Vader made Luke realise how close he was to the very turning point that his father once reached, it showed him where he stood and in a way what to choose. So that scene of Luke chosing for the good side is what the whole saga is about: choice for good and bad. So, with all these hands getting chopped off, it devaluates that moment. And that is a shame.
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Dec 17th, 2006 11:11 PM |
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Enforcer of the Republic
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Yes...and then Luke fell down a shaft.
Very significant. 
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Dec 17th, 2006 11:15 PM |
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He did..... and so did Palpy, and Ob1, and Maul.... and OB1 again alomst fighting grievous, and Mace fell and... ooooh, these terrible endless repetitions....
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Dec 17th, 2006 11:19 PM |
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It provides cohesion. And yes, it is pointlessly repetative because Lucas cant think of how to dispose of characters.
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Dec 17th, 2006 11:20 PM |
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Well, he thinks repetition is profound.... That's what worries me.
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Dec 17th, 2006 11:23 PM |
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Enforcer of the Republic
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Repetition always is a hallmark for "Place analysis here"
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Dec 17th, 2006 11:32 PM |
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It works of course, but when applied properly. But he finds it poetic when everything is repeated everywhere. He overdid it.
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Dec 18th, 2006 09:18 AM |
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Its not overdone...its far from typical though. It helps to connect a saga that spans 27 years. People already feel as if they know a part of the film.
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Dec 18th, 2006 03:34 PM |
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You don't need to repeate everything three times to connect something, style, music etc. should connect it up as a whole. Not repeating scenes x times...
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Dec 18th, 2006 08:12 PM |
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Enforcer of the Republic
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No, you don't need to. I'm just saying that its not necessairly wrong to.
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Dec 18th, 2006 09:48 PM |
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It is when all you do is repeat yourself. I like the hands repetition thing with Luke and Anakin, because it shows a similar path they are walking.
Some parrallels are nice when they show a different outcome when a situation is handled differently. But so often it is random, just for the sake of repetition.
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Dec 19th, 2006 06:23 PM |
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As I said, it doesn't really bother me. I think its an artistic mechanism. Lucas really isn't known for his mature filmmaking.
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Dec 19th, 2006 10:21 PM |
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Hehehe...
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Dec 19th, 2006 11:00 PM |
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Well I'm glad that this little thread of mine is enjoyable, and that it's caused some discussions over the paralells in the saga.
Good stuff.
Here's some new ones:
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At the end of TPM, we focus in on the Sith Master, and his goal... Anakin.
In ROTS, all the obstacles blocking Palps from Anakin are removed.
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The shots have the soldiers in similar positions in the frame.
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One opens up to let in, one opens down to let out.
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Opposite positions and colors, yet the holograms are in almost the exact same spot.
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Open and shut.
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