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Good is a point of view Anakin...wow!
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General G
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What he said ^^^ big grin


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Can't make it more clearly than it is: good is good, evil is evil, nothing in between.


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Palpatine knew he was being evil though. Granted, characters acting like that don't so much exist in real life, but in Lucas' world, Palpatine is pure evil and does things regardless of his point of view, simply because he is evil.

The OTHER "bad guys" are debatable.


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Nope.


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Can't make it more clearly than it is: good is good, evil is evil, nothing in between.


Vader is in between, he honest to god thinks he is doing good.


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Aye, but to him evil WAS good.

It was his nature, what he liked, so to him it was good.


GL makes this clear in plenty of dvd extras and stuff, that even evil people believe what they are doing is good... even though it's not.

He's talking about Anakin, but still.

I think Palps honestly thought that things would be better if he just wiped the slate clean of Jedi, senators, trade federation, etc.....

And started a strict, regulated, and controlled system of government.

See Anakin's EPII dialogue: "The politicians should discuss the problem, agree what's in the best interest of all the people, and then do it." And Padme responds: "That's what we do. The trouble is that people don't always agree." To which Anakin makes the very keen observation: "Well then they should be made to."

I think Palps thought very much along the same lines.


And it meant that his religious sect would get to destroy the rival religious sect in the process.

Score! stick out tongue


Your just arguing semantics there.
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Vader is in between, he honest to god thinks he is doing good.


My suggestion is that he was simply confused. He knew he wasn't doing any good ("It's not the Jedi way") but he done it regardless, because in his mind it was necessary. That doesn't mean he is doing good by his own estimation, it does not mean he is doing good for the galaxy; he is simply doing it because he feels he has no other option. And I think one of the most potent scenes of Revenge of the Sith is the montage sequence right at the end, on the bridge of the Star Destroyer, and the silence indicates a deep regret from inside the suit for his actions. But what can he do now? What other option does he have?
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Vader was not in between: he was good and then chose for evil.


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For what he thought was the greater good.


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Yea, but i think that deep dawn he knew, that what he was doing was wrong.


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Well, then he didn't look there very often.


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Yea, but he was redeemable, as he proved in ROTJ, Sidious wasn't at all.


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Because he finally realised that what he was doing wasn't really good.


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I think deep down he always knew that, but he was convincing himself, that what he was dong was for greater good.


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He never showed it then.


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I never said that he did, i think that he thought, that he has done to much evil. to come back to the light.


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It's an understandable thought for him, especially for what he had done.


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Yup, to bad Dooku never redeemed himself, tham it.


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He wouldn't have done much anyways.


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Just for the sake of it, i hope, one day we get to see in EU, how Yoda or Qui-Gon redeems Dooku in death and brings him back to the light.


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