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Count Makashi
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Hey, i cared when Dooku died, i almost started to cry, but i didn't, because i am a MAN.


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Originally posted by vintageSW77
its interesting that my nephews and their pals who were 8 and 10 when TPM came out were dissapointed in Dooku as the Sith to take over Maul

their first words on seeing the AOTC trailer were "hes just an old man"
and that attitude stayed
thats why the kids i knew round that time on the whole disliked AOTC
and i guess thats why we got Grevious in Sith
Maul ruled for the kids


Maul was much more THERE, right there when you see him, you know he's big trouble. Not so with Dooku, he should have been made evil. His elegance stands a bit in the way of taking him seriously as a villain. It almost seems he actually believes the universe will be better when the Sith rule, more democracy etc.

But still, Lee also played Dracula and Saruman, and I never felt these guys were 'just old men', but serious foes with dark an evil minds, people to be reckoned with.


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in Star Wars movies kids want a good villian
it was always Jango not Dooku who the kids were jazzed about in AOTC
but again they got short changed

Dracula is a horror icon so the rep proceeds him old man or not and i reckon Lee was about 40 when he finished doing Drac so he wasnt so old

Sauraman against Dooku is a creepy looking evil wizard with an army of ugly characters
In Dooku they just saw a posh old dude with a few nice moves


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Then script failed Dooku as a character.


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I think so... Age doesn't matter to make someone evil. You gotta fear him. I mean, the Emperor in the OT was always just an old man in a robe, but he was kinda scary in a way. He was a guy to be reckoned with, that was clear, same with Maul and Saruman.

It can be done in numerous ways, he can look scary as hell, like Maul, he can have scary allies, like Saruman, he can do something horrible or a guy who does terrible things is afraid of him, like the OT emperor. And many more. But all Dooku did was be civilised. He looked like a politcian with a light sabre. Lee made him pretty good, but there wasn't enough to go on to make him really evil.


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Originally posted by vintageSW77
in Star Wars movies kids want a good villian
it was always Jango not Dooku who the kids were jazzed about in AOTC
but again they got short changed

Dracula is a horror icon so the rep proceeds him old man or not and i reckon Lee was about 40 when he finished doing Drac so he wasnt so old

Sauraman against Dooku is a creepy looking evil wizard with an army of ugly characters
In Dooku they just saw a posh old dude with a few nice moves


Thast because Jango is an intriguing character.


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Hey, i cared when Dooku died, i almost started to cry, but i didn't, because i am a MAN.


thats because you're a christopher lee fanboy. the guy's entire screentime could have consisted of him sitting on the toilet reading a magazine and you would cry out "BRAVO!!!!".


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Thast because Jango is an intriguing character.


nah they just liked his two handed gun poses and fancy back pack
i reckon thats another high point of the PT
the Jango Obi chit chat at Jangos pad
i prefer it to the fight scene


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thats because you're a christopher lee fanboy. the guy's entire screentime could have consisted of him sitting on the toilet reading a magazine and you would cry out "BRAVO!!!!".


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Hey, i cared when Dooku died, i almost started to cry, but i didn't, because i am a MAN.


I bet you have leaked fluid for dooku in other ways though

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thats because you're a christopher lee fanboy. the guy's entire screentime could have consisted of him sitting on the toilet reading a magazine and you would cry out "BRAVO!!!!".


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Anakin...

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Anakin what?


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I second Queeq's question.


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Another apprentice.


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Victory.


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Well, in my opinion, Anakin is the undisputed main character (of the entire trilogy). When you put it all together, you realize, even in the OT, it is still Vader's story, even though he doesn't get the most screentime. In the PT, it told two stories: a.) Darth Vader's fall and b.) Palpatine's rise to power. In my opinion, Anakin is the main character with Obi-Wan and Palpatine sharing the 'secondary' roles in terms of importance. They are, ultimately, his strongest influences. I don't know how I'd explain it in a cogent manner, but Anakin and Obi-Wan's direct decisions are what moves the story, but it is Palpatine's schemes that runs the whole narrative.

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Yup, it's Vader's story (now).


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Yeah. And if it is Vader's story (now) then obviously the PT is worst than I thought it could have been; the audience feel so detached from him it makes any involvement in the story deeper than CGI battles and duels obselete.


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True.


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