Ah, but you're ignoring that in literally every fight but the one with Luffy, he wasn't fighting seriously, just casually spamming attacks, confident in the fact that no one could oppose him.
Only Wiper and Luffy provided any resistance to him.
Post-skip Luffy's only tentatively mid-shichibukai, I expect him to go higher.
I bumped Ace down per request, but since he's got royal haki and 100mil more bounty than Law, I'm not sure about that. Also put in the rest of the supernova, as well as Caribou, Pekoms, and pre-skip flame leg Sanji.
Well his best feat is momentarily stalemating Aokiji...which doesn't mean he's that strong obviously but around the same level as Marco or Jozu probably. So hard to place but you are right about Jimbei stalemating him.
Blackbeard got scared of a one arm Shanks when he had two DFs.
I think it fits. Really Blackbeard's Fruit is such a double edge sword. He's great against DF users, especially logia. But on the flipside he's very vulnerable to attacks, which is probably why he ran from Shanks, who is basically Whitebeard sans the DF so makes sense.
As for Akainu, in addition to the whole melt the raft thing there is the fact that Ace's fire was able to hurt Blackbeard quite a bit and lava is lollava.
That was young Ace, before he began working for Whitebeard.
He did have that *huge* flame attack he used against Blackbeard.
Ace has very large DF attacks, logia intangibility and pretty good physical toughness for a logia, Haki including royal, gigantic bounty, and Whitebeard was apparently grooming him as a successor.
Hm, speaking of Whitebeard, Marco at low yonkou level perhaps?
Probably right.
They've had more screentime. I think Ace's flame attack is bigger than anything Kuma's done (his Ursa shock was surprisingly low-power).
And it says something that his bounty leaves theirs far behind (with it being noted that it's increasingly difficult to get bounty upgrades past a certain level), and it's even higher than the bounty of 500 mil that Oda said Enel'd get based on his strength.
Well, maybe you're right about Kuma, but Law still seems to be probably above him by his crazy skills imo, he's got range in spades.
Anyways, Ace did have a high implied power for being so high in WB's hierarchy, but when he got into little conflicts, he seemed less impressive, I mean, he did have a short run with Smoker and their interaction didn't have him as a master haki user nor anything like that. Probably just some playful meaningless combat? Very likely, but still...
I think Oda links length and importance a bit too much. When trying to hype a villain fight, he's on several occasions just upped the amount of time it takes to confront the villain (Enel's beanstalk, chasing Hodi, etc.).
Marineford showed us a lot of the world the high-ups live in, crews of over a dozen Shichibukai-level types, and that was great.
And they both could've been low shichibukai at the time.
Well then, other way around- Should Law go up?
Logia intangibility seems better than Kuma's armor (which, we've seen, strong attacks can do a number on. Really, unless Kuma's way tougher than the Pacifista, it's fairly low down there). While his pseudo-teleport is fast, wounded Zoro was able to dodge almost all of his attacks well, neither the rate of fire or the speed of the attacks themselves were too much for Zoro to dodge. The speed from paw-pawing himself doesn't translate into the high general body speed or martial arts skills some of the other shichibukai have.
Ace has more offense, and has Haki to Kuma's not. Kuma has a broken active defense, and some pretty hax tricks, but neither his armor nor his skills seem all that.
He can, given a moment, heal from even Admiral level attacks like lava punch completely. Haki too, he kicked Kizaru and Aokiji.
The World Government did consider him one of the few pirates who could beat Marshall D. Teach.
I think we've already established that the government knows sh_t about Marshall D. Teach.
Marineford was cool because there were many battles and several characters, but personally I didn't find it all that enjoyable. Both Ennies Lobbie and the Prison arc were far more enjoyable for me.
So really the only thing this chapter made me do was think back on Wapol and realize that he was a great villain.
Baby 5 is alright. Bit generic but alright. Buffalo is fun. I honestly did not recognize Franky at the end because it's been so long since he showed up in his full robot body and honestly he just sorta vanished from the manga.
Also yay for finding a cure for Shinokuni because Oda is not going to leave Kinemon like that.