Silver Surfer vs Dr Strange vs Professor X vs Superman
cosmic power vs mystic power vs telepathic power vs physical powers
all gods in their own way, all very different. i think in this one supes might actually be the first to go. what do you all think?
I think that the order you have is the order of dominance -- except Superman might beat Prof. X (Silver Surfer beats Dr. Strange beats Professor X or Superman).
Silver Surfer's power cosmic is on an intergalactic scale. Dr. Strange is the best sorceror on earth, but there are other sorcerors elsewhere in the universe. The herald of Galactus is more unique and powerful, plus he has defeated powerful magical beings like Mephisto. He is the most powerful in the group of 4. He also has immensely powerful will and an alien mind, so he is not an easy target for psionics.
I think that Dr. Strange's skills are more varied than Prof. X's. He should be able to find a charm against psionics and use some interdimensional power to take out X or Superman.
I am not sure how Superman fares vs. psionics. If he is fairly suseptible maybe Prof. X can beat him, but I think that on sheer power he might be able to take it. This one really depends on the set up.
Re: Silver Surfer vs Dr Strange vs Professor X vs Superman
Professor X would be the first to go down.
Then the next person kissing dirt would either be Superman or Dr Strange (will explain later).
And the winner would be the Silver Surfer or Dr Strange.
Now, how come the good doctor is appearing twice?
Well, it depends on what course of action he takes. If he decides to stay in the battle and fight directly he will go down. He may be the master of magic and sorcery, but even he cannot evade a super-dense Kryptonian body hurtling toward him at 99.9% the speed of light!
He would also not be able to evade the power cosmic if he decided to go mano-a-mano with the Herald or the Alien.
However, if he transcends dimensions into either a past era or an alternate time-line he could be able to bring his biggest guns into play (and yes, I know that both the Surfer and the Kryptonian have both travelled time, and that are both able to penetrate dimensional barriers. But it would take precious time to do so, time that the doctor would put into good use).
Now, the good doctor will not be playing nurse while he is in this safe place. He will be opening the Greater Book of the Vishanti, and calling for aid from the other-dimensional beings (the Vishanti).
With their aid the sorcerer supreme just became able to literally erase both the Surfer and Mr Big S. He would be virtually unstoppable with the assistance of the Vishanti (Dr Fate could stop him, but even that is arguable since although Fate has access to greater power than the Vishanti through the use of the Helm of Nabu and the Lords of Order, who operate at a far higher frequency that the Vishanti could ever dream of, Fate is not as adept in magic as Strange is).
Anyways, if Strange decides to step into an alternate time-line (which he can ...easily) and use the relative safety to call upon the Vishanti, he can win.
IF he decides to use more mundane magicks against Superman (who although vulnerable to magics would still be a significant risk when moving at his top speed), or against the Silver Surfer (whose power cosmic would be a really HUGE problem) then the Dr would lose.
Conclusion: The winner is the Silver Surfer if Dr. Strange acts the fool, and the winner is Dr. Strange if he decides to show the alien, the herald and the dweeb exactly what he is capable of.
The one thing that is for certain is that the dweeb (i mean Xavier) and Superman(normal supes) would not win, and that Xavier would be the first to fall. Xavier would even probably be taken out by all three at the same time. No one likes having someone in their head. He would thus be hexed into multiple dimensions, a split second after his head was blown apart by the power cosmic, a picosecond after a super-dense hyper-velocity alien from krypton power-flew through his torso!
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I think Professor X could take this as his telepathy has more range (in that he has more ways to use it) and a lot more skill than Strange. Surfer contrary to popular belief has weak telepathy which is really only used to communicate and learn languages. Professor X's mind can just about take them down.
Superman is a bit of a non factor because he is against all his weaknesses: Telepathy (he may be strongwilled but he can still be controlled by Xavier), magic (often thought of as in the same league as kryptonite in terms of Supeterminating, and a high octane energy manipulator who would be able to draw out the solar energy from Superman. Although Superman's speed is an asset, he has to accelerate over time to get to near light speed or really exert himself (if he immediately charges then he is vulnerable to everyone else)
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"Martian Manhunter said that if Superman doesn't want anyone in his mind, no one is in. So Xavier will never control Superman."" very funny if Xavier want to control him there is nothing sups can do.
am not talking about speed. What is blocking X from controling superman .
Of course superman can fry his ass , but if he had a change he can crontrol him.
i was reply to the statement made by The Flash .
If Martian Manhunter(more powerful than Xavier will ever be) said that if no one is going inside Superman's mind, no one is! I'd find some examples, but I'm too lazy. Why don't you find some info on Superman first then get back to me.
what's stopping X from getting into the mind of SS. he looks the most intimidating because supes and strange look like men. and that doesnt even matter because he'll know right away of his power. is ss invulnerable to psionic blasts?
The Silver Surfer has an extraordinary amount of control over the power cosmic. I have not seen him do so, but I think he could create a shield to protect himself from a psionic blast. I mean, I remember one time he could have cured the Hulk of gamma radiation if he wanted to. He has travelled in time. He can do amazing things.
At the very minimum he could just use raw power in the blink of an eye and get rid of Prof. X before significant psionic damage was done. Especially since I think he has a very resilient alien mind.
i guess what the x vs ss arguement comes down to is whether psionic blasts are physical or not. we know magic isnt physical, thats why strange is still a contender and he is more powerful than mephisto (no?). and superman's only advantage is his speed and strength which are both closley matched my ss (even though it's hard to say) and he is very vulnerable to strange.
so
are psionic blasts or any other kind of mental attack considered physical matter which ss has the power to alter/control?
what can x do to strange?
and can strange beat ss?