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The Big Bang Fizzle

It is pretty common knowledge that the majority of scientists claim that they support the ridiculous Big Bang theory. A theory which states that a bunch of total nothingness somehow squeezed so tightly together into a tiny dot that eventually it (the nothingness, lol) exploded and created all of the matter (stars, planets, moons, etc..) in the universe. Here, I will list a multitude of reasons why what this "theory" claims is scientifically impossible.


1 - The Big Bang Theory is based on theoretical extremes.It might look good in math calculations but it can't actually happen A tiny or a lot of nothing packed so tightly together that it blew up and produced all the matter in the universe. Seriously now, this is a fairy tale. It's easy to theorize on paper. Big Bang theory is a theoretical extreme, just as is a black hole. It's easy to theorize that something is true , when it has never been seen and there is no definite evidence that is exists or ever happened.


2 - Nothingness cannot pack together. It would have no way to push itself into a pile.


3 - A vacuum has no density. The theory states that the nothingness somehow got very dense, and that is the reason it exploded. However, a total vacuum is the complete opposite of total density.


4 - There would be no ignition to explode nothingness. No fire or match. It couldn't be a chemical reaction because no chemicals existed at that point nor could it be a nuclear explosion, for there were no atoms then either. Remember, it was a bunch of "nothingness."


5 - There is no way to expand it. How can you expand what isn't there? Even if that magical vacuum could somehow be pulled together by gravity (which wasn't supposed to exist at that time, remember), what would then cause the pile of nothinghness to push outward? The "gravity" which supposedly brought it together would've kept it from expanding.


6 - Nothingness cannot produce heat. The intense heat caused by the "exploding nothingness" is said to have changed the nothinghness into protons, neutrons, and electrons. First, an empty vacuum in the extreme cold of outer space cannot get hot by itself. Second, an empty void cannot magically change itself into matter. Third, there can be no heat without an energy source.


7 - There is not enough antimatter in the universe.This is yet another huge problem for the theorists. The original "Big Bang" would have produced equal amounts of matter and antimatter. Only small amounts of antimatter exist in our universe though.If the Big Bang theory was actually true then there'd be equal amounts of both.


8 - The antimatter from the Big Bang would have destroyed all the positive matter. This fact is well-known to physicists. As soon as the two are produced in the lab, they instantly come together and annihilate one another.



Source: Vance Ferell, B.A., M.A, B.D.


There is much more to add; just getting started here. That's enough for now though as this is very time-consuming.


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Why is this in the religion forum?


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Why is this in the religion forum?



Because I believe the belief in the Big Bang is a faith-based religion despite what some so-called "scientists" think?

If the moderators wanna move it to general discussion then that's fine by me.


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I believe the belief in the Big Bang is a faith-based religion


You believe some dumb ass shit.


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You believe some dumb ass shit.



roll eyes (sarcastic) Sure I do.


You believe in the Zoroastrian religion, riv. LOL. You have no room to be accusing others of believing in dumb ass shit.

Seriously though, those who believe that the big bang theory is science are naive as f***.


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So the alternative is that the God of the Bible spoke (because coincidentally He has a holy mouth and lips and vocal cords) and this is more descriptive of reality than actual scientific theory?

There is something very wrong with your epistemology.

The real problem is that "God did it" says even less about reality than the supposedly questionable scientific theories, which by the way, you should leave to scientists and theoretical physicists to debate. The opinions of Bible (or Quran) thumpers in such matters are not worth considering.


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You believe in the Zoroastrian religion, riv.

Actually i’m Asatru, which means i’m a Polytheist, so, basically you just talk out your ass without bothering to know who you’re talking to.
Most ppl who believe dumb ass shit, do, so, thats okay.

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Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
It is pretty common knowledge that the majority of scientists claim that they support the ridiculous Big Bang theory. A theory which states that a bunch of total nothingness somehow squeezed so tightly together into a tiny dot that eventually it (the nothingness, lol) exploded and created all of the matter (stars, planets, moons, etc..) in the universe. Here, I will list a multitude of reasons why what this "theory" claims is scientifically impossible.


1 - The Big Bang Theory is based on theoretical extremes.It might look good in math calculations but it can't actually happen A tiny or a lot of nothing packed so tightly together that it blew up and produced all the matter in the universe. Seriously now, this is a fairy tale. It's easy to theorize on paper. Big Bang theory is a theoretical extreme, just as is a black hole. It's easy to theorize that something is true , when it has never been seen and there is no definite evidence that is exists or ever happened.


2 - Nothingness cannot pack together. It would have no way to push itself into a pile.


3 - A vacuum has no density. The theory states that the nothingness somehow got very dense, and that is the reason it exploded. However, a total vacuum is the complete opposite of total density.


4 - There would be no ignition to explode nothingness. No fire or match. It couldn't be a chemical reaction because no chemicals existed at that point nor could it be a nuclear explosion, for there were no atoms then either. Remember, it was a bunch of "nothingness."


5 - There is no way to expand it. How can you expand what isn't there? Even if that magical vacuum could somehow be pulled together by gravity (which wasn't supposed to exist at that time, remember), what would then cause the pile of nothinghness to push outward? The "gravity" which supposedly brought it together would've kept it from expanding.


6 - Nothingness cannot produce heat. The intense heat caused by the "exploding nothingness" is said to have changed the nothinghness into protons, neutrons, and electrons. First, an empty vacuum in the extreme cold of outer space cannot get hot by itself. Second, an empty void cannot magically change itself into matter. Third, there can be no heat without an energy source.


7 - There is not enough antimatter in the universe.This is yet another huge problem for the theorists. The original "Big Bang" would have produced equal amounts of matter and antimatter. Only small amounts of antimatter exist in our universe though.If the Big Bang theory was actually true then there'd be equal amounts of both.


8 - The antimatter from the Big Bang would have destroyed all the positive matter. This fact is well-known to physicists. As soon as the two are produced in the lab, they instantly come together and annihilate one another.



Source: Vance Ferell, B.A., M.A, B.D.


There is much more to add; just getting started here. That's enough for now though as this is very time-consuming.


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Quite an argument you have there lol. Very convincing. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Originally posted by riv6672
Actually i’m Asatru, which means i’m a Polytheist, so, basically you just talk out your ass without bothering to know who you’re talking to.
Most ppl who believe dumb ass shit, do, so, thats okay.

“LOL”


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The OP makes some very interesting points that are worth taking all the seriouslys because what feels like the big true-true is always the actual true-true. Feelings > facts.


However, science doesn't dismiss established theories FullSTOP; you need to provide a feasible alternative that satisfies everything the previous theory satisfied while also resolving the problems in that previous theory--everything in that list, and probably more. On top of that, the alternative theory being proposed as a replacement has to be validated ad nauseum over many years by many different researchers and experiments, operating within the same framework to reach the same results--all of which needs to be scrutinized by the rest of the mathematical/experimental/theoretical/engineering/academic scientific community.

Which takes a lot of time and money, and may not bear fruit. Big Bang replaced Steady State this way, so if you want to get rid of Big Bang you need to replace it with something following the aforementioned criteria. If you have no such replacement, Big Bang will stay in place.


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So the alternative is that the God of the Bible spoke (because coincidentally He has a holy mouth and lips and vocal cords) and this is more descriptive of reality than actual scientific theory?

There is something very wrong with your epistemology.

The real problem is that "God did it" says even less about reality than the supposedly questionable scientific theories, which by the way, you should leave to scientists and theoretical physicists to debate. The opinions of Bible (or Quran) thumpers in such matters are not worth considering.


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Plot twist, the Big Bang theory was originally made by a Catholic priest


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Plot twist, the Big Bang theory was originally made by a Catholic priest



Catholics... lol.

I'm not surprised in the least.


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Because I believe the belief in the Big Bang is a faith-based religion despite what some so-called "scientists" think?

If the moderators wanna move it to general discussion then that's fine by me.
so called "scientists" Brilliant.


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You resurrected a thread that's been dead for a month to say that? laughing out loud


Oh, pooty... smh. no thumb down


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