most people seem to think hes a fairly poor dueler and a fairly average jedi. he doesnt really use sheer power to fight and rarely forces an enemy back, but hes very defencive and a master at using his environment to his advantage. he beat maul like that, and anakin. i think hed be fairly close to dooku. the only reason he was dropped instead of anakin is because dooku wanted him concious. they both left themselves open, dooku could have easily thrown anakin and kicked obi wan but the whole reason for the fight was anakin proving himself, to obi wan was taken out early. so how well would he do against someone like mace or yoda. not in a straight duel but a fight in a big envrionment with lots of objects. is he one of the councils best, a fairly typical council member or barely able to get in and passes only through his wisdom and not his combat ability or force powers?
Obi Wan owns...end of story
-fight with dooku...possibly he wanted anakin to be the one to win it for them so he could get some satisfaction(not revenge)but so that anakin could then feel better ever since he lost his hand in their first encountr with dooku...
Yes Obi owns big time, but he's not stupid.
He was outclassed by Dooku and couldn't do anything to prevent it.
He didn't let himself almost get killed so Anakin would feel better.
That would be like Qui-Gon who lets himself kill, so Obi would get the pleasure of slaying Darth Maul. Or Agen Kolar, Kit Fisto, and Saesee Tiin who lets themself slay within seconds, so Mace would feel like a better fighter when he fought Sidious...
I'd say Obi-Wan was less powerfull than say Yoda or Master Windu, but what he lacked in power, he compensated for through training, particularly in the case of lightsaber duelling. Yes, he was definitely outclassed when fencing against Dooku, because soresu is not designed as a duelling form, and Dooku's makashi precision was able to penetrate his defences. General Grievous, however, was not really using his lightsabers to fence with, just as melee weapons, and when he did fence with them, it was not with the precision of makashi, so Obi-Wan was still able to use soresu to block his attacks.
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Yup. And it doesn't hurt that Obi-Wan has some of the most varied experience and actually encounters every sith lord in the era except for Sidious in combat.
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obi wan was a realist and one of the smartest of the jedi just because he didnt display awesome power and lightsaber techniques doesnt mean he wasnt capable of them he only followed the will of the force and did all that was necessary
Obi-Wan is the Pwn3in' Ninja of the Clone War. End of story.
Actually, he's extremely good. Arguably on par with the more 'human' form of Darth Vader, he's no pushover by any standards. And although subtle, hints of his power pop up in ROTS. During his final duel with Anakin, he matches the new Sith Lord in a stalemate of the Force. The same Sith Lord who, although not at full power, was considered one of the most powerful Jedi the Order had ever been graced with. So he is powerful.
And as a swordsman? A combatant? He was the most respected Republic war hero after Anakin. He defeated General Grievous, the cyborg terror who has defeated half a dozen Knights and Masters simultaneously. He's fought every Sith Lord alive in his time save for the Emperor. Dooku and Vader he dueled twice. He slew Darth Maul as a Padawan, and defeated Darth Vader at his best.
Obi-Wan is a powerful Jedi Master, and an amazing duelist.
obiwan was good enough to let himself to become one with the force befor darth vader could kill him making him even more powerful damn
it! because obiwan is a bad ass damnit!
Obi-Wan was the only Jedi in the PT to face every Sith (expect Sidious) and then some giving him the most experience in a lightsaber to lightsaber combat. Obi was one of the greatest during the PT if not one of the top five or maybe higher.
i dont like posting in my own threads, but obi wan directly matching anakins attack with the force is something i was going to put in the intro thing but forgot. it was pretty impressive considering anakin is the chosen one and concieved by the force and was going to become the most powerful force user in the galaxy. his power had been amped by the dark side and obi wan could still stand toe to toe with him in a straight show of force (no pun intended).
How does Obi Wan defeat anakin in a duel when anakin is far more fiece as a fighter than count dooku ever was...maybe why he won on mustafar was questionable, but the whole fight, he showed sweet skills...and this is probably wrong, but it almost seemed as though palps was helping dooku out with the force...why else wouldnt either of obi wan or anakin use force absorb to block dooku's force attack...no matter what, though, obi wan is the man
He is the quintessential jack of all trades, and he is very good in all categories. Though he is not highlighted for his ability to duel as let's say a certain Count Dooku, he is very talented and is ranked by Nick Gillard as a 9. Kenobi is very quick and very defensive as a Jedi and is in prime physical condition.
Nov 16th, 2005 11:44 AM
