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UEF Supreme Commander vs. Starcraft

The UEF decides to send a supreme commander to the planet of Auir to conquer the planet to set up a stronghold in a coming invasion of the entire SC universe. The protoss, terrans and Zerg have analyzed this threat and decide to form an allegiance in order to counter this threat in its early stages. The Supreme Commander has about an hour and a half worths of preparation to prepare for the counter attack forces. The planet cannot be destroyed as it proves valuable somehow to both sides. who wins?

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Well... this depends on what point the races are at. The protoss have been devistated, as well as the terrans, so they have very little forces. The zerg have multiple billions, however.


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This is before the Zerg had discovered the homeworld of Aiur.

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oh, hm..tough battle in my opinion.


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the Supreme commander wins, its many times larger than anything in starcraft, its equiped with a supposedly infinate stash of nuklear missles and the thing itself can take many nuke blasts, at the same time the thing can teleport and thats just supreme commander himself

with one hour he can build an entire base of enormous robots, anti air cannos, battle ships, aircraft and perhaps even super untis like the Atlantis and Mobile tank factory, your not gonner beat this guy soon

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You can do that in starcraft tp erm


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Originally posted by Blax X
You can do that in starcraft tp erm


do what it starcraft

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I assume that he means that starcraft is capable of stocking nukes, teleporting and building units etc.

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Originally posted by doan_m
I assume that he means that starcraft is capable of stocking nukes, teleporting and building units etc.


Starcraft in real life cannot build an army as big as Supreme commanders in an hour of real time, in game time yes, but in an hour, starcraft people couldnt even get a command center up let alone anything else, they build using welding technology sort of thing and their troops are taken from prisons and trained over a period

also they have to build Nukes, Sup Commander simply has them, a lot of them.....and they keep coming because he has the technology called Nano lathing, which is what allows him to build such a large army in an hour or less...

either way i think Starcraft is pwned, they cannot survive the UEF might, their lucky its not the Aeons, they have 400ft tall robots with huge laser cannons and enormous independance day like Ships

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LOL for a whole time I was thinking - Are they talking about the ship from Starfox?! laughing


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One thing, Protoss Main fleet. The Protoss are highley advanced. Their carriers are not 400ft tall they're like a mile long. Now picture several hundred, if not thousand of these mile long carriers with multipile fighters... Arbiters to cloak, Psionic storms.

Several trillion Zerg forces who defeated a race, the Xel'Naga, who were far more advanced than the Surpeme Commanders are in their most infant stage...

A bunch of Terran BC and the troops. The Battle Cruisers could yamato cannon stuff to death and they have all the nukes they want too...

Sorry, Star Craft wins. Both beceause they're simply too many of them, and the Protoss wouldn't be inferior much if at all to the Supreme Commander...


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One thing, Protoss Main fleet. The Protoss are highley advanced.

Just saying their highly advanced proves absolutely nothing. The supreme commander literally builds Kilometer sized tanks in under a few minutes out of nothing but energy. Now thats a point about advance.
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Their carriers are not 400ft tall they're like a mile long.

So what of it? Supreme commanders usually have to contend with independence day sized ships.
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Now picture several hundred, if not thousand of these mile long carriers with multipile fighters... Arbiters to cloak, Psionic storms.
Oh yes i'm imagining it. I'm also imagining them all getting shot down by seriously over the top missile spam.

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Several trillion Zerg forces who defeated a race, the Xel'Naga, who were far more advanced than the Supreme Commanders are in their most infant stage...

Again just saying their advanced does not prove anything. And trillions of zerg can meet the receiving end of layered nuclear fire. Or simply enough, multi kilometer tank spam. You do know the smallest unit in SupCom measures to 4 meters tall right?


A bunch of Terran BC and the troops.
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The Battle Cruisers could yamato cannon stuff to death and they have all the nukes they want too...
The amount of time they take to charge the damn thing is more then enough time to shoot down the BC's.
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YOu dont think realisticley do you? A SupCom would kick one armies ass, but the combined armies of the three most powerful races in the galaxy united. They'd just overpower them by sheer numbers.

Saying they are highly advanced IS something. Seeing as the carriers can survive a yamato cannon easily, a focused nuclear blast into a beam, as well as their shields. Plus the fact that they DONT need to MAKE anything, they just warp them into battle.

One note, Carries can survive medium-yield nuclear warheads...

That is the worst amount of bullshit I've ever seen. One thing, the SupCom dosen't have enoguh nukes to simultaniously nuke several trillion troops, some of which would need more than one nuke to take down. SupCom cant "spam" enough missiles off in time before he gets melted into slag. Think realistically, he dosen't have several million missile launchers, which is about what he'd need.

His nukes wouldn't hit the BC, which would be in orbit, before they dropped several hundred of their own, and their Yamato takes only about 6 seconds to charge, more than enough time to shoot and evade the nukes, which would take several minutes to reach high orbit.

You cant nuke a storm...it's not a physical being or entity, it's a storm.

You didn't think that through did you?

One more thing, the zerg protoss and terran aren't going to attack him with one army at a time. They'll send them all in an a coordinated attack plan. Your SupCom is toast bud.


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We really don't know anything about the commander canon wise. And we know next to nothing of the UEF's capabilities with regards to personnel and technology. Didn't they send an expeditionary force in Brood War? And didn't it get wiped out?


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By trillions oif zerg, and that was after the force suceeded in taking down the entire terran empire.


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starcraft wins due to amount of people

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OK...ONE Zerg army completely blacked out a planet from sight in space. COMPLETELY, enough of them to BLOCK the planet from view. Now multiply that times about five hundred. Plus, a fleet of HIGHLY advanced (yes that does matter I dont know how you get the idea technology dosen't matter) Protoss warships with the task of guarding several hundred if not thousnad planets in the galaxy all converged into one spot... Now picture a Human fleet of equal size...

He'd have enough nukes to take out maybe...10% of that in his initial volley, in which the concentrated fire from above in retaliation could easly blast a hole through the planets crust. You said we cant destory the planet. If your dude used that many nukes, one ,he'd destory the planet, and two, he'd kill his own army. Then all the armies of the 3 combined races would go eat him for breakfast.


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Thank you. We finally agree on something.


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Originally posted by Liquid_Fire
YOu dont think realisticley do you? A SupCom would kick one armies ass, but the combined armies of the three most powerful races in the galaxy united. They'd just overpower them by sheer numbers.
The Supreme Commander can do likewise you know. He can bring sub commanders into the field which would increase the rate of units going into the battlefield. Given that kind of multiplier effect this is going to turn out badly.


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Saying they are highly advanced IS something. Seeing as the carriers can survive a yamato cannon easily,

Actual fluff>>game mechanics.

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Plus the fact that they DONT need to MAKE anything, they just warp them into battle.
They still have to manufacture the damn thing elsewhere before calling it into battle. Supreme commanders just make it straight up into the field.

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One note, Carries can survive medium-yield nuclear warheads...

And where have you seen that?

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That is the worst amount of bullshit I've ever seen. One thing, the SupCom dosen't have enoguh nukes to simultaniously nuke several trillion troops

While the silos get expended,he simply spams more plain and simple, while the nuking is taking place.

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His nukes wouldn't hit the BC,
There wont be any need to. SupCom spams fighters to engage the forces from orbit.
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and their Yamato takes only about 6 seconds to charge, more than enough time to shoot and evade the nukes,
With what I wonder?

which would take several minutes to reach high orbit.


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You didn't think that through did you?

You seriously thought I was talking about the storm and not the source of the storm?

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The SupCom dosen't make kilometer long tanks...and even if it took him a few minutes, how many tanks is that compared to everything the SC universe will throw at it?

Also, a several kilometer wide tank divison wont do shit against a several dozen thousand kilometer wide swarm of painless zerg.


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