Madvillain
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Ion vs. Shaper of Worlds
Ion (Rayner)
vs.
Shaper of Worlds
who wins?
Feb 19th, 2006 02:17 PM
grey fox
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Hmmm i dont actually know much about Ion , any differences from a basic GL ?
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Feb 19th, 2006 02:26 PM
Mider
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ummm he's basically stronger then parallax from what ive heard or at least the same
Feb 19th, 2006 04:06 PM
Madvillain
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stronger? i dont know...
anyway, bump.
Feb 22nd, 2006 04:43 PM
grey fox
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Ion rips shaper of worlds a new one.....
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Feb 22nd, 2006 04:46 PM
Madvillain
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by grey fox
Ion rips shaper of worlds a new one.....
Just a couple days ago you didn't know who either one was. What makes you so certain now?
Feb 22nd, 2006 04:50 PM
grey fox
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Juntai and ion , one gave an explanation , the other a scan.
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Feb 22nd, 2006 04:55 PM
Madvillain
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Post the scan!
Feb 22nd, 2006 04:57 PM
grey fox
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It's nothing special , just the Gaurdians saying how rayner has more power then any other gl , plus when someone said he was like a good version of parralex . That helped greatly.
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Feb 22nd, 2006 05:05 PM
Madvillain
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ehh, that isnt concrete enough im afraid. you do know shaper evolved from a cosmic cube right?
i dont think Rayner takes it as easy as that.
Feb 22nd, 2006 05:07 PM
HaSon
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
ehh, that isnt concrete enough im afraid. you do know shaper evolved from a cosmic cube right?
i dont think Rayner takes it as easy as that.
He does. Read The Power of Ion. Rayner had no limits. This is a guy that had to focus himself so he didn't exist everywhere at all times.
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Feb 22nd, 2006 05:08 PM
Diunic
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Yeah! ION is right. KR as ION is nigh omnipotent while The S.O.W. and any other Cosmic Cube are considered as minor omnipotent, that was stated by Kubik himself when he explained to Kosmos how they were less powerful than the Celestials. He even gave the information of his own limit of power.
Feb 22nd, 2006 05:24 PM
Madvillain
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Diunic
Yeah! ION is right. KR as ION is nigh omnipotent while The S.O.W. and any other Cosmic Cube are considered as minor omnipotent, that was stated by Kubik himself when he explained to Kosmos how they were less powerful than the Celestials. He even gave the information of his own limit of power.
True...Shaper of Worlds was above Kubik though. They both evolved from CC's..but Shaper was above both Kubik and the false Beyonder.
Feb 22nd, 2006 05:28 PM
Diunic
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I kwow but are you trying to say he would own ION because of that???
Feb 22nd, 2006 05:30 PM
Madvillain
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No Im not..just giving you the scope of his powers...he is onimpotent on a universal scale almost. He should be on the level of a minor Celestial.
Feb 22nd, 2006 05:36 PM
Pepito
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Shaper of Worlds would win through the nature of his powers. Ion is a human with immense power so Shaper can easily manipulate him with his perfect illusions or fool him into thinking that he is more powerul than he seems. Besides Shaper doesn't seem like he would stick around for a giant battle. Shaper is above Kosmos who fooled top earth heroes that he wasa beyonder so Shaper could do it to Ion.
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Feb 22nd, 2006 05:45 PM
Diunic
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Guys we stand before a real dilemma here. Both are omnipotents beings. Who wins? I liked Pepito argument about the nature of S.O.W. powers.
Feb 22nd, 2006 05:49 PM
HaSon
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Ion is pure emerald energy, not a human. I don't see how fooling Earth heros equates to fooling a nigh-omnipotent being.
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Feb 22nd, 2006 05:50 PM
Madvillain
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Pepito
Shaper of Worlds would win through the nature of his powers. Ion is a human with immense power so Shaper can easily manipulate him with his perfect illusions or fool him into thinking that he is more powerul than he seems. Besides Shaper doesn't seem like he would stick around for a giant battle. Shaper is above Kosmos who fooled top earth heroes that he wasa beyonder so Shaper could do it to Ion.
good argument.
Feb 22nd, 2006 05:51 PM
Diunic
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S.O.W. is no hero, he's a nigh omnipotent cosmic guy that once even created a pocket universe. It's a very good match!!!
Feb 22nd, 2006 06:02 PM
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