ok, its Batman from the movie, "Batman Begins" and he gets 12 hours of prep time and all of his standard gear available including:
Nomex survival suit, memory cloth cape, graphite kevlar-lined cowl with an earphone antenna & communication device and optional nightvision lenses, bronze bladed arm gauntlets, kevlar gloves with remote control pad for the Tumbler, lead shot for an added punch and pick locks inside, ninja spiked steel-toed boots with HF transponders, razor sharp acid-etched batarangs, gas-powered magnetic grapnel gun with grapnel cartridges and de-cel jumplines, mini mines, flashbangs, smoke grenades & regurgitant, nerve/tear gas, acetylene torch, laser torch, nightvision binoculars, flexible periscope, miniature gas mask, rebreather, forensics kit, digital camera, first aid kit, electrical hacking devices, optic cable, voice-activated control for the Tumbler, cell phone and a radar.
1. 50 Cent with a bulletproof vest, a 9mm Berretta and an AK-47.
2. Catwoman(Batman Returns)
3. James Bond(Casino Royale)- silenced P99, AK-103 and 2 remote mines.
4. The Punisher(movie)- M16A2 with M203 and bayonet, dual customized M1911A1 Colt .45s with laser sights, hand shotgun, 3 fragmentation grenades, kevlar vest with white skull insigna and a survival knife.
With 12 hours of preptime, he can certainly take Punisher...by running over his ass with the Tumbler. Than out of spite, dragging the body of his son across town with a Christmas sleigh.
1. Take down 5 guys armed with guns all at once.
2. Take on 4 ninjas all at once in str8 h2h who are all trained on the same level as him, and beat them rather quickly.
3. Beat Ra's who would mutilate Frank h2h
4. Beat up 10 thugs all at once
With as much attention as Ra'z gave Batman in that movie, they're not on the same level. That's like saying Hand Ninjas are in the same league as Wolverine and Electra in skill.
Doubtful. Ra'z in that movie was a master planner, and a good in-battle strategist, but he only displayed the proper use of two martial arts. Frank had a similar style, just less martial art application. He used more military disarming and H2H, which is just as effective at close range.
More cannon fodder. Frank messed up anyone who got in his path.
With the equipment you're giving Frank, Batman's losing. You honestly need to read the specs on those weapons and see what damage they would do, considering Batman didn't dodge any bullets during the entire movie. He made sure nobody got them off, and when he did, it was against common scum. Frank Castle is a military trained killing machine.
Is that why Diana f*cked his world up in the Hiketaia?
not much more, and thats only because he used the element of surprise & prep with a claymore mine and had guns too.
and is that ur a fact, or just ur opinion?
Ra's was able to stalemate Batman who beat 4 ninjas and 10 guys at once. those two groups would both mutilate Frank, without a doubt. and Frank may be trained h2h, but its nothing compared to what Ra's has mastered. ras knows many forms of combat and thats all he focuses on is h2h like Batman. all Frank prollyu knows is like basic h2h skills and disarming techniques that they teach u in special ops
and i know he has a grenade launcher, but Punisher cant even see Batman. thats the whole problem here, that was the problem when he took down that one thug with the sub machine gun
Didn't make it easy. His kevlar was shredded by the time he gave the bomb to Saint's kid.
Think about it. Ra'z gave Bruce special attention, and even told him why. He's Gotham's first son, so he needs to be number one.
That borders on Ninja fanboyism. You need to think about what you're saying. You don't know anything beyond the fact that they're League of Shadow ninjas. Batman even called them pawns. You can't prove that they were very skilled, mostly because of the fact they were taken down so easily.
You speak of military training like it isn't special. Do you ever wonder why American Marines are so deadly? They learn to kill in every way possible. That type of hand to hand is hard to get past in close range, especially when you're packing ballistic knives and combat knives. You need to read up more on martial arts and fighting styles before you make such a bad assumption.
Do you have any idea how dark it gets in the desert in the Middle East? Frank was taking people out without goggles during an op to capture a member of Saddam's generals. Spotting Batman won't be a problem.
so? if it wasnt for his kevlar vest, he wouldve been dead, because he got shot 2, wait, maybe 3 times by a couple of goons that wouldnt even touch Batman.
and i think thats ur opinion talking again, not real fact.
Ninja fanboyism? no im just using common sense, and i can prove that they were highly trained because they trained with Bruce, and u saw what Bruce/Batman could do, so that basically displays their potential. just because he called them pawns doesnt mean they suck, i mean, i agree Batman is better than them, but that doesnt mean that theyre horrible. if u notice, he called every1 pawns in the movie. Crane, and many others.
and all im saying is that Ra's is a better martial artist than Frank, im not saying special ops sucks or anything, i know theyre deadly, but Ra's is even worse. Ra's is an assasin of the night, with stealth tactics that would have Frank confused as f*ck. especially if he was dressed as a ninja using his stealth.
and when was this? was this in the extended cut of the Punisher?
ooh, and now ur comparing a general of Saddam to Batman?
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Dec 20th, 2006 01:38 AM
ur right
