Sharia law in UK seems 'unavoidable';-Archbishop of Canterbury
The Archbishop of Canterbury says the adoption of certain aspects of Sharia law in the UK "seems unavoidable".
Dr Rowan Williams told Radio 4's World at One that the UK has to "face up to the fact" that some of its citizens do not relate to the British legal system. .
This is rather disturbing IMO, I personally believe if people want other law systems they should go to a country where that law is practiced.
The wests success in industry and development has been brought about by certain traditional practices, laws and politics. So why should a law system which is practiced in some very unstable, lunatic countries be brought to western countries?
Its a fact that Muslims are on the move throughout the world, having more children so they will eventually become the majority, is a Muslim world inevitable.?
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Nope. More people doesnt always mean more influence. Hell there are lots of battles throughout history where the army with significantly less soldiers won.
Nope im not saying this is a war, im just saying that more people doesnt always mean more power.
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Multi-culturalism has some major drawbacks, one of the biggest being that people take the culture of the majority for granted. Why nobody is as passionate about "freespeech", "women's rights", or "Western style judiciaries" as being staples in a multicultural society, rather than trying to appease small groups with different laws, is beyond my capacity to comprehend.
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If there would ever be a Muslim majority in the western world that would want to create a Sharia law then really it would be against the very principles of our democracy's to stop them. I still find it very unlikely that something like that would ever happen though.
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This is not exactly right. No group of voters can make laws that go against constitutional prescedent- if they try, it is the duty of the Supreme Court to strike such laws down. Laws based solely upon a religious sect are unconstitutional. It would take a complete dismantling of the government- a revolution, for such things to happen here in America.
As for Britain, they are beginning to come around. Not withstanding the comments of the Arch Bishop, Britain (and Europe in general) is finally beginning to understand some of the pitfalls of multiculturalism.
Respect and tolerance for other religions and other cultural norms? Yes, always. Allowing them to override your own, existing cultures and laws?
Never. This is just conquest by other means.
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Starbucks culture though? Hollywood? I hate to recycle the argument about American cultural imperialism, as it's oft taken too far, but there is some truth to it.
What would you expect a country like England to do to get rid of it? Seeing as we are far too subtle in celebrating Great Britain as it is, seems like it's a lost cause to get rid of the multi-cultural attitude now.
A multi-cultural attitude is a good thing as long as it doesn´t go over the top. My relative lives in Bradford and women can´t go through certain areas without wearing a headscarf or they get abused.
When the fuel blockade was on, and fuel was tight, some garages had signs "Muslims only" on them. If you put up "whites only" signs you´d get done for being a racist.
Unfortunately there´s different rules for different people.
Silly Muslims... you don't go into someone's house and demand they cater to you.
If the UK does do it, the Muslim community will expect more in the future, imo. Better get your women used to wearing a burka; it's a shame too, as the UK is loaded with attractive women.
Most muslims i know are very law abiding, i think its only the minority which are causing a fuss in the community.
We should be governed by British law. I think leaders in the Islamic community should start to speak out more!!! Because the very few are ruining it for them.
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man been a few years, anyone think this post is still relevant ?
__________________ With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.These words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie -- as awisdom, and warning. The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged.
"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.-----Sir Winston Churchill
Not particularly. In the 5 years not a single aspect of Sharia law has been implemented. I still hear the same scaremongering by the far right that sharia law is 'taking over' yet it is still only practiced in a tiny minority of areas by a tiny minority of Muslims in 'courts' that are no different to Jewish Beth Din courts which have operated in the UK for 60 years and haven't 'taken over' English or Scots law (it should be noted they are very different from one another). There is also written into English law that a 3rd party can arbitrate in certain legal matters so long as both parties agree to taking part and the outcome of taking part in either Sharia or Beth Din rulings. If a person doesn't agree with the findings then it has no legal authority and would have to ad taken to an actual court.
no. In the 5 years since the now former archbishop made his claim, sharia is no closer to becoming legally binding than it was in 2008.
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