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Online Gamers Anonymous

Really? Has it some to this? I mean, video games can be addictive, I admit, but do helpless gamers really need to steal the 12 Step Program from AA?

http://www.olganon.org/

Am I missing something here?

(Peach and GK, I felt that this thread be in the VG Forum for it's topic, and not the GDF. Apologies if I am wrong.)

In the opinion of you, the posters, is this group worthy of help, or just sad?


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"Notable deaths

Globally, there have been deaths caused directly by exhaustion from playing games for excessive periods of time.[57] [58] There have also been deaths of gamers and/or others related to playing of video games.
[edit] China

In 2007, it was reported that Xu Yan died in Jinzhou after playing online games persistently for over 15 days during the Lunar New Year holiday.[59] Later 2007 reports indicated that a 30-year-old male died in Guangzhou after playing video games continuously for three days.[60][61]

In June 2005, one news agency reported, "Xiao Yi was thirteen when he threw himself from the top of a twenty-four story tower block in his home town, leaving notes that spoke of his addiction and his hope of being reunited with fellow cyber-players in heaven. The suicide notes were written through the eyes of a gaming character ..."[44]

In March 2005, the BBC reported a murder in Shanghai, when Qiu Chengwei fatally stabbed fellow player Zhu Caoyuan, who had sold on eBay a dragon sabre sword he had been lent in a Legend of Mir 3 game,[62] and was given a suspended death sentence.[63]
[edit] South Korea

In 2005, Seungseob Lee (Hangul: 이승섭wink visited an Internet cafe in the city of Taegu and played StarCraft almost continuously for fifty hours. He went into cardiac arrest, and died at a local hospital. A friend reported: "...he was a game addict. We all knew about it. He couldn't stop himself." About six weeks before his death, his girlfriend, also an avid gamer, broke up with him, and he had been fired from his job for repeated tardiness.[64][65][66]
[edit] Vietnam

An Earthtimes.org article reported in 2007 that police arrested a 13-year-old boy accused of murdering and robbing an 81-year-old woman. A local policeman was quoted as saying that the boy "...confessed that he needed money to play online games and decided to kill and rob..." the victim. The article further related a police report that the murder by strangling netted the thief 100,000 Vietnamese dong (US$6.20).[67][68]
[edit] United States

Press reports in November 2005 state that Gregg J. Kleinmark, 24, plead "guilty to two counts of involuntary manslaughter". He "left fraternal twins Drew and Bryn Kleinmark unattended in a bathtub for 30 minutes, in order to go three rooms away and play on his Game Boy Advance" while "in the mean time, the two ten-months old kids drowned".[69][70]

Tyrone Spellman, 27, of Philadelphia, was convicted of third-degree murder for killing his 17-month old daughter in a rage over a broken Xbox.[71]

Ohio teen Daniel Petric shot his parents, killing his mother, after they took away his copy of Halo 3 in October 2007. In a sentencing hearing after the teen was found guilty of aggravated murder, the judge said, "I firmly believe that Daniel Petric had no idea at the time he hatched this plot that if he killed his parents they would be dead forever."[72][73] On 16 June 2009, Petric was sentenced to 23 years to life in prison.[74][75]
[edit] Canada

Brandon Crisp, an Ontario 15-year-old, ran away from home on Thanksgiving Monday in 2008 after his parents took away his Xbox 360 due to falling grades and excessive play of Call of Duty 4.[76] He was last seen alive on a bicycle trail. His body was found weeks later, about three miles away, by a party of hunters.[77] An autopsy determined that he died when he fell from a tree.[78] /endquote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_...#Notable_deaths

that aside, tons of people have lost their jobs, been fivorced or left by their partners, have gone into deep depressions, etc, over video games. i know a dude in japan legally married a video game character.

so id say sure. whether people like it or not, anything that can take your mind out reality whether it be virtual or not, is potentially addictive, even to the point of mortality.


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Originally posted by Impediment
Really? Has it some to this? I mean, video games can be addictive, I admit, but do helpless gamers really need to steal the 12 Step Program from AA?

http://www.olganon.org/

Am I missing something here?

(Peach and GK, I felt that this thread be in the VG Forum for it's topic, and not the GDF. Apologies if I am wrong.)

In the opinion of you, the posters, is this group worthy of help, or just sad?


VG addiction does not approach the level of infamy of Alcohol/drug addiction, but that does not mean that it is non-existent.
Those deeply addicted to video games definitely need some form of help. OGA seems to be one of those.


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Whoa, thoughs deaths seem crazy.


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Re: Online Gamers Anonymous

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Originally posted by Impediment
[B(Peach and GK, I felt that this thread be in the VG Forum for it's topic, and not the GDF. Apologies if I am wrong.)

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you aren't forgivin


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I had an easier time quitting weed and cigarettes then I did quitting video games.


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Ms.Marvel's post made me sad.


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This is not VG addiction. This is just insanity:

http://gamepolitics.livejournal.com/136608.html


Twins Drown While Dad Plays Video Game

This might be the saddest story GamePolitics has ever covered.

Toledo's Channel 13 News reports that a 24-year-old man has plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the drowning deaths of his 10-month-old twins. Gregg Kleinmark of Fostoria, Ohio left the babies in a bathtub for at least a half-hour while played an unspecified video game and caught a smoke.

The man's wife, Rachael Kleinmark, has since filed for divorce and obtained a protection order against her husband. Gregg Kleinmark, wracked by guilt and remorse, has tried to commit suicide twice since the deaths of the twins. He told Channel 13 he visits their graves every day.

"I messed up and it's going to haunt me for the rest of my life," he said.

Kleinmark will be sentenced in January.


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Originally posted by chomperx9
you aren't forgivin


You weren't asked.

And the sad truth of it is that just about anything can become addictive, especially if the person already has an addictive personality.


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It's not a chemical addiction, like a drug, or nicotine for example, im not even sure you would call these deaths a result of an addiction. Playing a game for 3 days straite and then dying? Killing you child over a broken xbox?

Addiction - Just plain Crazy?

Gaming is a choice, plain and simple, we do it because it's fun, some people read for 8 hours a day, some people sit infront of the idiot box for 8 hours a day, some game. I game for 7-10 hours a day, rais my son for 20-30 minutes, go to work and love my wife. Im not an addict, it's just fun as hell. And if i killed my son because my PS3 stopped woking, the first thing out of everyones mouth would be "you sick crazy ****er"

These deaths were just the result of a crzy person putting themselves through a possbile health threatening regime, because they're brains lacked a certain something that triggers in most of us non-crazy people. Self - preservation of health and life.


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I agree with Peach that, to some people, almost anything can be addictive, besides the obvious nicotine, alcohol, sex, drugs, caffeine, sugar, etc.

I would definitely not label myself as a video game addict. I am, however, a video game enthusiast. I play VG every day, whether it be on my PS3 or Wii. I would not call myself a hardcore gamer, though. People say that hardcore gamers spend 40 to 50+ hours a week playing VG. Sorry, but that's too much time for me, especially with the time I spend working and spending time with my family. The only real quality time I have for VG is on my weekends when I am all alone at the house, since my wife works weekends and my daughter is almost always at my parents' house.


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It's not a chemical addiction


Except that chemical addictions are not the only ones that exist.


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Online Gamers Anonymous? Srsly?
Ghey.


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Originally posted by Peach
You weren't asked.

didnt need to be. thats why freedom speech exists


everyone can have an addictive personality it just depends on what attracts them. everyone has their own topics.

drugs
food
ciggs
video games
and many others


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Those deaths are just sad. No they are terrible.


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VG addictions are akin to gambling addictions... They obviously exist and they're obviously a problem. An addiction doesn't have to be chemical.

I see no problem with the organisation, if you're not a VG addict then it's obviously not for you and therefor why complain?


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i was addicted to wow for awhile but i finally got over it and left.
that game is an online drug. so many kids drop out of school every day just to stay home and play wow. people lose their jobs to over wow


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quote: (post)
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Except that chemical addictions are not the only ones that exist.


addictions where your body isnt feeling the effects - unlike a heroin addict for example - are not addictions at all. These guys wernt addicted, the made a choice, which turned out to be wrong BECAUSE there ws somthing wrong in there heads.

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i was addicted to wow for awhile but i finally got over it and left.
that game is an online drug. so many kids drop out of school every day just to stay home and play wow. people lose their jobs to over wow


thats a choice, not an addiction, theres a thin line between the two, but they are distinctive when examined. Somone losing their job to play games? well then gratz on not having to work to provide for yourself, take your trust fund ass back t daddys house and play all day long stick out tongue

drop out of school to game? well..learning is also a coice, dropping out is a choice, albeit one made by idiots, but then , thats not addiction, the guy's just a moron. I mean really..could he be anything else? Like the 30stone guys who eat themselves to death..food addiction? no!, They justlack the 'self-preservation instinct' and are stupid.

This will kill you..don't do it.

hmm, can't get any simpler than that, these people ignored their own health, they must have been at leasty a little savvy being PC heads and all, food good, rest good, ignore these and youre not addicted..your just slow in the head.


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Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I had an easier time quitting weed and cigarettes then I did quitting video games.
Indeed, I have "forgotten" to write term papers because I was playing videogames.

It is up there with masturbation in terms of my addiction to it.

That said, lol.


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thats a choice, not an addiction, theres a thin line between the two, but they are distinctive when examined. Somone losing their job to play games? well then gratz on not having to work to provide for yourself, take your trust fund ass back t daddys house and play all day long stick out tongue

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every addiction is a choice. its your choice to put a cigg in your mouth. its your choice to play wow 24 hrs a day. you make your own choice in life.


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