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Sephiroth vs. Weiss


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Weiss looks like a rip off of Sephiroth

Sephiroth he's faster, more skilled judging by what i have seen of Weiss, and his magic capabilities are vastly superior


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Sephiroth most likely.


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Yeah Sephiroth wins this. Maybe Weiss versus Genesis or Angeith.


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Sephiroth wins in a curbstomp

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Okay, what about Sephiroth VS Chaos Vinny & Wiess.

Merely asking before starting a thread on it. Might not be worth it after all

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That'd be a good fight.


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It would indeed..


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Sephiroth would win, as he fought Genesis.


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Seph is directly stated to be the strongest FF7 character, tho Weiss will put up a fight.


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It depends on which versions we're talking about. Base Weiss and Pre Nibelheim Sephiroth are about even, with Sephiroth being slightly stronger and Weiss being a tad faster. I would be a very, very close battle in which either could win.

It has been said of Advent Children Sephiroth that nothing is stronger than him, but Omega Weiss is around his level, and while AC Sephiroth would have the edge Omega Weiss could still win.

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It depends on which versions we're talking about. Base Weiss and Pre Nibelheim Sephiroth are about even, with Sephiroth being slightly stronger and Weiss being a tad faster. I would be a very, very close battle in which either could win.

It has been said of Advent Children Sephiroth that nothing is stronger than him, but Omega Weiss is around his level, and while AC Sephiroth would have the edge Omega Weiss could still win.


Wait... Wait a minute. "It has been said of Advent Children Sephiroth that nothing is stronger than him", and you have to stop right there. Because it was never stated Omega Weiss is equal to AC Sephiroth.


But why we are talking about FFVII Sephiroth? It was his KH version in the video.

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Wait... Wait a minute. "It has been said of Advent Children Sephiroth that nothing is stronger than him", and you have to stop right there. Because it was never stated Omega Weiss is equal to AC Sephiroth.


Care to point out where I said Omega Weiss is equal to AC Sephiroth? I said Base Weiss is about equal to Pre Nibelheim Sephiroth.

Then I said that Omega Weiss is on the same tier as AC Sephiroth, though AC Sephiroth is probably stronger. Though there is a slight possibility OW is equal to ACS, because the quote only says no one is stronger, not no one is equal to him. I still think AC Seph has the edge though.

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But why we are talking about FFVII Sephiroth? It was his KH version in the video


I figured that we were talking about FFVII Sephiroth because he is the one that exists in the same universe as Weiss, and that the OP just posted that particular vid because he liked it more than any FFVII/compilation Sephiroth vid.

Its a more epic battle any how, the best of SOLDIER against Deepground's finest.


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That make Weiss seem god like in speed but keep in mind Sephiroth was stated to beable to teleport and be faster than light (the advent children fight was severly slowed down for our comprehension) Weiss puts up a good fight being with Omega, but he wouldnt beat sephiroth nor would chaos vincent with omega weiss


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Weiss is faster than Sephiroth. If AC was slowed down for us then why does Loz still teleport around?

Look at this video, while Sephiroth can teleport, Weiss in his base form moves fast enough to fight Bloodburst Rosso(who is faster than normal Rosso, and normal Rosso is constantly teleporting around), and Arch Azul, one of the strongest things on the planet. He not only beats them, he does it effortlessly only using one hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QfjkzLK3Cw

He uses less effort in this fight than Sephiroth uses in his fight with Genesis in Crisis Core, and Rosso is faster than Genesis, and Azul is stronger than him. Base Weiss is equal with Pre Nibelheim Sephiroth.

Then consider that Omega Weiss has the power of nearly all the lifestream in him, he is quite a powerful opponent, and ould be one hell of a match for AC Sephiroth.


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Then consider that Omega Weiss has the power of nearly all the lifestream in him, he is quite a powerful opponent, and ould be one hell of a match for AC Sephiroth.


How you know Omega Weiss has the power of nearly all the lifestream in him? From all we know, Omega could have been using Weiss' body as a mechanism of defense to protect itself from Chaos Vincent. And a mere mechanism of defense wouldn't have all the power of Omega.

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How you know Omega Weiss has the power of nearly all the lifestream in him? From all we know, Omega could have been using Weiss' body as a mechanism of defense to protect itself from Chaos Vincent. And a mere mechanism of defense wouldn't have all the power of Omega.


The only things on Omega that are "mere defense mechanisms" are the flying geometric things that die with one shot. Omega Weiss was at the core of Omega, drawing strength from all of Omega.


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The only things on Omega that are "mere defense mechanisms" are the flying geometric things that die with one shot. Omega Weiss was at the core of Omega, drawing strength from all of Omega.


That's speculation. We don't have a clear explanation about Omega Weiss in the game.

If it was Weiss, then why he would fight Vincent? Weiss didn't know him. Why he would draw power from Omega, if he didn't even know what Omega is, or what she/it can do?

If you think it was Weiss using Omega, the entire fight don't make any sense. But if you believe it was Omega using his body as a mechanism of defense to stop Chaos Vincent from destroying her/it, then everything makes sense.

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Omega was using Weiss. The thing is that Omega used him as the ultimate offensive weapon. Omega had no reason to not give its power to its last resort at fighting off Chaos.

The fact is though, that if Omega Weiss fought with AC Sephiroth of his own will and not just a tool of Omega, that he stands a pretty good chance of winning.


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