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US History Textbooks

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100.../ynews_ts1253_3


One phrase can describe this situation:

GOOOOOOOOOOOOP


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- Changes in specific terminology. Terms that the board’s conservative majority felt were ideologically loaded are being retired. Hence, “imperialism” as a characterization of America’s modern rise to world power is giving way to “expansionism,” and “capitalism” is being dropped in economic material, in favor of the more positive expression “free market.” (The new recommendations stress the need for favorable depictions of America’s economic superiority across the board.)

- Thomas Jefferson no longer included among writers influencing the nation’s intellectual origins. Jefferson, a deist who helped pioneer the legal theory of the separation of church and state, is not a model founder in the board’s judgment. Among the intellectual forerunners to be highlighted in Jefferson’s place: medieval Catholic philosopher St. Thomas Aquinas, Puritan theologian John Calvin and conservative British law scholar William Blackstone. Heavy emphasis is also to be placed on the founding fathers having been guided by strict Christian beliefs



Wow, that actually does sound like some freaky 1984 shit....


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so, for as much as this might inspire "americanism", if it works, it would only cement the international steryotype of Americans as idiots, as now even the educated ones wouldn't know simple facts about their own history, let alone the world's. Its like the conservatives are doing everything in their power to speed the descent of American into some type of authoritarian or autocratic despotism.

That being said, it wont work. Kids these days believe youtube more than they do teachers


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That being said, it wont work. Kids these days believe youtube more than they do teachers


In other words, kids these days are already stupid?


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In other words, kids these days are already stupid?


no, I wouldn't confuse "believe moronic things that should be obvisouly illogical" and "stupid"

its just that, for the brain, the things we believe have nothing to do with their "truth" but with emotional and personal relevance.

So like, in this instance, if a kid is going to become a "radical anti-american anti-capitalist" (which actually describes the vast majority of people who don't live in "former" colonial powers) its not goiong to have much to do with their education at this point, at least I would think.

Not only that, kids aren't stupid. They will know when they are being lied to, if for no other reason, they might look stuff up on wikipedia. Teachers as individuals will always teach their way anyways. I had a few VERY religious teachers, who wore it on their sleeve, if anything that helped me cement my anti-religious ideas.


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...Not only that, kids aren't stupid. They will know when they are being lied to, if for no other reason, they might look stuff up on wikipedia...



That was way too funny.


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Originally posted by Bardock42
- Changes in specific terminology. Terms that the board’s conservative majority felt were ideologically loaded are being retired. Hence, “imperialism” as a characterization of America’s modern rise to world power is giving way to “expansionism,” and “capitalism” is being dropped in economic material, in favor of the more positive expression “free market.” (The new recommendations stress the need for favorable depictions of America’s economic superiority across the board.)

- Thomas Jefferson no longer included among writers influencing the nation’s intellectual origins. Jefferson, a deist who helped pioneer the legal theory of the separation of church and state, is not a model founder in the board’s judgment. Among the intellectual forerunners to be highlighted in Jefferson’s place: medieval Catholic philosopher St. Thomas Aquinas, Puritan theologian John Calvin and conservative British law scholar William Blackstone. Heavy emphasis is also to be placed on the founding fathers having been guided by strict Christian beliefs



Wow, that actually does sound like some freaky 1984 shit....


Wow, Bardock scared of the free market. Things must be serious.


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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That was way too funny.


it is true though

even if we asssume wiki is wrong (which studies show it is at least as accurate as other encycleopedia's [though different types of errors]), it will offer a second opinion, probably in line with what the general, global, academic feelings on the matter are.

Like, even if everyone is lying and trying to manipulate kids, there are so many places for them to get info from, and the reverance of teachers as the providers of info was dead when i was in highschool


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Wow, Bardock scared of the free market. Things must be serious.
I don't mind the free market, I just don't like rats on my face.


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Wow, Bardock scared of the free market. Things must be serious.


the free market of government run schools and government contracts with text-book companies which effect government mandated curriculum?


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Damned conseravitives and right-winged bastards. All I have to say about that.


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This is a sad day for America.



Thomas Jefferson's ideals are what this nation has deviated from. If our government ran closely to a mondernized version of his ideals, we'd have far less problems.


Stupid texans and their stupid conservative ideals.


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Who the hell is this "Texas" scoundrel, and why is he corrupting America's youth?


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I've always hated Texas.


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Who the hell is this "Texas" scoundrel, and why is he corrupting America's youth?


He lives in Texas. Go there, to the first town you come across, and walk the streets. Talk to the people, and if you survive, you will understand. wink


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Listen people, are these "revisions" not entirely the truth, sure, they're [white] lies in a fashion; more akin to slighty bending the truth, actually.

But considering Christianity is a the religion of Good, having a Christian Nation would by default net us a nation of Good; who doesn't want that?


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Listen people, are these "revisions" not entirely the truth, sure, they're [white] lies in a fashion; more akin to slighty bending the truth, actually.

But considering Christianity is a the religion of Good, having a Christian Nation would by default net us a nation of Good; who doesn't want that?


But what is "good"?


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But what is "good"?


Christianity/Jesus/God, duh.


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*raises hand*

I don't understand.


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