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Admiral Akbar
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Mosque at Ground Zero

The elected officials of New York city are planning on building a Mosque close to where the twin towers fell on 9/11 as a commemoration of the lives lost that day and to please the Muslim population. Personally I find this insulting and quite ridiculous. What do you guys think?

Here is a link for a petition in opposition of the Mosque.

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Islam didn't destroy the towers, so I don't really care.


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"Islam didn't destroy the towers, so I don't really care."

True, but Islamists DID.

Truthfully, I could really not care about a Mosque on Ground Zero, and my main problem with the issue is the very, VERY suspect connections of the parties backing this.

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"Islam didn't destroy the towers, so I don't really care."

True, but Islamists DID.



Some, Muslims did. And the majority of the Muslim world denounces their actions.


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I oppose building any religious monument at ground zero. However, this is two blocks away and dozens of Muslims were victims of the attack. I assume they had families too.


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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I oppose building any religious monument at ground zero. However, this is two blocks away and dozens of Muslims were victims of the attack. I assume they had families too.
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"Some, Muslims did."

Who have at least a few hundred thousand armed supporters in the field. And plenty of state backing.

"And the majority of the Muslim world denounces their actions."

True, but unfortunately the minority that doesn't is disproportionately powerful. Take a look at Iran, Saudi Arabia, or the Muslim Brotherhood.

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American Airlines destroyed the towers. I saw it on TV.


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Guarantee me that the mosque will not secretly be used for nefarious purposes, and I have no problem with it. Oh, and make sure there's room for a church and synagogue, and whatever other religious institutions are needed to represent all faiths victimized by 9/11.

If not, then I find this whole thing suspect.


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Originally posted by Tortoise Herder
"Islam didn't destroy the towers, so I don't really care."

True, but Islamists DID.

Truthfully, I could really not care about a Mosque on Ground Zero, and my main problem with the issue is the very, VERY suspect connections of the parties backing this.


All of the 9/11 hijackers were men, so by your reasoning, no men should be allowed near Ground Zero.


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Adam_PoE:

Obviously you misunderstand my vocabulary.

FOR THE RECORD:

Muslim/Islam= The third and latest major Monotheistic religion to be formed and practitioners thereof, regardless of political or ideological stripe.

IslamIST/Jihadist: Radical theocratic extremists who seek to forcibly subjugate all to the doctrines of Sharia law and convert or exterminate all who follow any other doctrine.

This is a fairly common distinction and I am not sure why you were confused over the matter.

And as a reiterated BEFORE here: I personally do not give ONE WHIT about there being a mosque persee on Ground Zero. What I DO have an issue with is the doublefaced behavior of the sponsers of said mosque and their ties to Muslim Radicals (don't believe me? Just dig up some of the Arab-language videos they've taken and translate them).

I hope this clears matters up.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Tortoise Herder
Truthfully, I could really not care about a Mosque on Ground Zero, and my main problem with the issue is the very, VERY suspect connections of the parties backing this.


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Originally posted by Tortoise Herder
And as a reiterated BEFORE here: I personally do not give ONE WHIT about there being a mosque persee on Ground Zero. What I DO have an issue with is the doublefaced behavior of the sponsers of said mosque and their ties to Muslim Radicals (don't believe me? Just dig up some of the Arab-language videos they've taken and translate them).


proof?


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It would be the ultamite pi$$ take - like a Commemorative Plate for the Muslims.


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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I oppose building any religious monument at ground zero. However, this is two blocks away and dozens of Muslims were victims of the attack. I assume they had families too.


Same can be said for dozens of Christian and Jews. Yet their families aren't proposing to place a religious monument near ground zero.


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Same can be said for dozens of Christian and Jews. Yet their families aren't proposing to place a religious monument near ground zero.


how is that relevant?


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Same can be said for dozens of Christian and Jews. Yet their families aren't proposing to place a religious monument near ground zero.


By that logic, then atheists would win.


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Originally posted by Mindship
Guarantee me that the mosque will not secretly be used for nefarious purposes, and I have no problem with it. Oh, and make sure there's room for a church and synagogue, and whatever other religious institutions are needed to represent all faiths victimized by 9/11.

If not, then I find this whole thing suspect.


It's solely for the Muslim community. And I agree the whole thing is suspect..why so close to ground zero? Of all the places that you could build a Mosque why choose a place where Islamic extremists took down the towers?


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Originally posted by inimalist
how is that relevant?


Because they aren't proposing building religious monuments near a place where many lives were lost?


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though, of course, nobody has brought up any reason to be suspiscious, save that the people worship Allah


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Because they aren't proposing building religious monuments near a place where many lives were lost?


that is 100% irrelevant though

it would only matter if they had and the government had prevented them from it

else, this is like saying: no, you can't drink because those other people don't drink.


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