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Darth Truculent
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How do I explain Jedi are not all powerful?

A co-worker of mine has the firm belief, that Jedi are all powerful. But he's confused on how a battle droid can kill a Force user. ATOC was the film that baffled him. I told him in firefight, you can only deflect so many blaster bolts and some of the battledroids have shields. But he seems to think that a Force user with just a flick of his hand and poof - a hundred enemy combatants go flying. I then tried to say even a Master like Yoda couldn't do that. He didn't believe me. After 30 minutes I gave up feeling like a wanted to beat the guy with a baseball bat.

How do I explain this to him?


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Nephthys
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This... this has been done before. Like this exact same story has been told to us a few months ago. Thats... really weird. confused

And the answer is still that the jedi are only human (or alien), they can't react to everything and they don't catch every attack via precog and they aren't fast enough to be everywhere. As Atton said they can be distracted or make stupid dicisions just like everyone else. Also their empathy makes big battles like Geonosis hard becuase they can feel their allies dying and that distracts them. Thats why the order teaches them to let go of attachments and emotion, so they don't make as many mistakes.


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truejedi
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technically though, what your friend said is true for Yoda, and Mace, Anakin and Obi-Wan (Thanks to CW cartoons..)

Though they can also get shot in the back randomnly.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
This... this has been done before. Like this exact same story has been told to us a few months ago. Thats... really weird. confused


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I would ditch all attempts at reasoning with the fellow and give him the beating of his life with that baseball bat of yours. His kind will never learn to listen, you need to make him see things from your point of view.


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Jedi are certainly not all powerful. Just show him some EU material, sourcebooks etc. It makes the limitations of Jedi power quite clear.

However, that said, there certainly were some Force-users (mostly in the Old Republic era) who could kill hundreds of enemies with the Force etc. wink

Ultimately, no matter how powerful, even they did die though.

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Look at the movies?

Palpatine couldn't even fly well enough to make the shaft fall non-fatal.

Heck, Jedi and Sith fall to their deaths *all the time*.


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Kip Duren moved a planet with the force.....

he also made a sun go Nova.....


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no he didn't.

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no he didn't.


it was in champions of the force i believe...

EDIT: not the super nova...i looked back at it and yes he used a torpedo to do that.....but still he moved a planet


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Do you have a quote for that?


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Do you have a quote for that?


not currently but im sure i can get one!


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He didn't move a planet. I bet money.

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I'll take that bet. It sounds too rediculous not to be true.


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Well, considering he said in the same sentence he made a star go nova...

Then took it back...
Get ready to pay up Chica!

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Well, considering he said in the same sentence he made a star go nova...

Then took it back...
Get ready to pay up Chica!


well if you don't believe me go read the book...anyways im working on finding the quote....i have to go sell text books back today so it might be awhile


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ight. Is champions of the force from the Jedi Academy series?

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yup volume 3


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truejedi
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Volume 3? You mean book 3? Heck, I'll wiki it. It better not be a comic book. Those suck. That's all.

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yeah, i've read that. If Kyp moves a planet ANYWHERE in that book, i'll make my avatar Darth Bandon for a month.

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