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Stall_19
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Fewest # of heralds that could take down Odin

What's the fewest number of herald level characters that it would take to beat Odin?

You need to post the team you think could down Odin.

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TheLordofMurder
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Depends on bad Odin wants to win; he could go into 2000ft Destroyer mode with Gungnir in hand and it would take (bare minimum) tens of thousands of Silver Surfers to beat him (this is my humble opinion of course)...

If he is at normal power levels, it depends on how he fights them; if he fights like a brick with energy projection, then I am not sure...but I would guess around 20-30.

But if he fights at normal power levels, but fights deviously (lets say he goes intangible and attacks all of them spiritually), then I honestly think he could keep killing them 1 at a time until he got tired of doing so.

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Depends on bad Odin wants to win; he could go into 2000ft Destroyer mode with Gungnir in hand and it would take (bare minimum) tens of thousands of Silver Surfers to beat him (this is my humble opinion of course)...

If he is at normal power levels, it depends on how he fights them; if he fights like a brick with energy projection, then I am not sure...but I would guess around 20-30.

But if he fights at normal power levels, but fights deviously (lets say he goes intangible and attacks all of them spiritually), then I honestly think he could keep killing them 1 at a time until he got tired of doing so.

That was Odin amped with all the asgadian spirits and the destroyer isn't standard Odin gear making your post irrelevant.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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I wouldn't call it an amp persay (Not in the Sun Dip sense). It is his energy that makes the Asgardians who they are.

He giveth, and he taketh.

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I wouldn't call it an amp persay (Not in the Sun Dip sense). It is his energy that makes the Asgardians who they are.

He giveth, and he taketh.

If it's not how he normally appears so it's an amp and the destroyer isn't a part of his standard equipment anyways.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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If it's not how he normally appears so it's an amp and the destroyer isn't a part of his standard equipment anyways.

I wouldn't call it an amp persay (Not in the Sun Dip sense). It is his energy that makes the Asgardians who they are.

He giveth, and he taketh.

You can call it whatever you like as long as you don't make it seem -or imply- that Odin's accessing a power that's not his own.

He doesn't need the Destroyer to absorb the energy of Asgardians if that's what you're implying.

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I don't think any team can really beat Odin, you just need alot of them as canon fodder so he can be overwhelmed with sheer numbers.

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In regards to this thread, I think you would need an unrealistic number of heralds to be able to beat Odin. I honestly can't think of the number of heralds you would need to beat Odin if he goes all out.

I don't think 1 Surfer or a 1000 Surfers would make any difference to Odin for example. He waves, they go down. His simply beyond Heralds. It's like picturing Hulk getting so angry he surpasses Galactus in strength. Just doesn't work for me.

I think placing a number of heralds into a single body would be a lot more effective. The next best thing would be to have a large number of heralds made up of beings with powers specifically useful/designed for a particular strategy to win.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
In regards to this thread, I think you would need an unrealistic number of heralds to be able to beat Odin. I honestly can't think of the number of heralds you would need to beat Odin if he goes all out.

I don't think 1 Surfer or a 1000 Surfers would make any difference to Odin for example. His simply beyond Heralds. It's like picturing Hulk getting so angry he surpasses Galactus in strength. Just doesn't work for me.

Sure you're not going a little overboard here? A 1000 Surfers wouldn't do it?

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I think placing a number of heralds into a single body would be a lot more effective. Or at least having a very large number made up of heralds with powers specifically useful for a particular strategy.

I don't know, I don't know of any herald that has a powerset that could act as a silver bullet. Maybe Surfers analytical abilities but there is no brute force to back it up. I think you need sheer numbers.

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I can't think of any. But to have a chance in hell they need to attack on several fronts. Magically, psionically/psychically, etc.

All I know is that they'd better eat their wheaties.

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All I know is that they'd better eat their wheaties.

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Sure you're not going a little overboard here? A 1000 Surfers wouldn't do it?

I don't see why they would. They're best bet would be to combine all of their power into one assault but that depends to much on want Odin's doing.

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I don't know, I don't know of any herald that has a powerset that could act as a silver bullet. Maybe Surfers analytical abilities but there is no brute force to back it up. I think you need sheer numbers.

I can't think of any either. That was just the best option as far as I can tell.

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galactus stated he was as powerful as 1 million surfers

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I don't see why they would. They're best bet would be to combine all of their power into one assault but that depends to much on want Odin's doing.

To be fair hasn't Surfer gone up against people like Mephisto? I'm thinking 1000 is way too much.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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To be fair hasn't Surfer gone up against people like Mephisto? I'm thinking 1000 is way too much.

IIRC, he once beat Mephisto with the purity of his soul. So?

I think a thousand Surfer isn't going to be enough. I don't understand why it would. They'd probably blast him at the same time creating some solar system/galaxy busting explosion. Then Odin would just start dropping them all.

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over 9000

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seriously, 1000 surfers would butcher odin

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All of them. Ever.

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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over 9000

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seriously, 1000 surfers would butcher odin

Why?

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Deadline
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IIRC, he once beat Mephisto with the purity of his soul. So?

Hasn't he held his own against Mephisto and isn't mephisto skyfather?

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I think a thousand Surfer isn't going to be enough. I don't understand why it would. They'd probably blast him at the same time creating some solar system/galaxy busting explosion. Then Odin would just start dropping them all.

Could have sworn Surfers dealt with galaxy destroying force.

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