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Gender roles and equality.
Hello once again guys. This was a highly debated topic in another thread, so I will debate it here. I'm well aware of the types that post here and their beliefs, but I don't really care.
How do people here feel about gender relations, roles, and equality? I believe in everything being 50/50, some believe in roles, and others (i.e most) believe it should be "equal" to a woman plus extra benefits. Not only in terms of relationships, but law and everything else.
I think everyone should have "Equal Opportunity" not "Equal Results". So many people now days are trying to force corporations to hire women, just so things will be equal, but that isn't equal at all, that is prioritizing women just because they are women, not because they are better for the job.
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The best person should be hired for the job. Women don't deserve special hiring and nor do any races or groups. Last I checked there were more women hired than men anyways. So that is unfair.
I think that at certain times many of these "laws" had a good cause, but they get carried away and cause more problems then they solve.
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I think everyone needs to find what arrangement they are comfortable with. I don't have a problem with dividing responsibilities, but I am strongly opposed to the indoctrination of gender roles by society.
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Right, people do what's comfortable for them, if they can't divide, live separately, which is what I recommend anyways.
You bet.
Although maybe not, it depends on whether or not I'm active to keep these babies going. It's good to have someone who disagrees with the norm to keep discussions going. Someone agrees with me. Wow.
I don't like the child support custody laws either that favor men. They are both wrong and part of an outdated time.
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Last edited by Tha C-Master on Aug 30th, 2011 at 05:18 PM
Agree'd, it is getting out of hand. Like the "Minority Programs", giving minorities (that are already hired in a company) a chance to learn more about being an executive, or to just have a higher chance to succeed. How is that fair, when the rest of the employees are still just working, not getting a leg up, and many of them might be much more qualified.
You should get rewarded, not because of your skin color, heritage, or ses, but by your work.
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That is of course totally contrary to reality. Your skin colour, heritage and sex greatly determines your ability to have success. It is not like women or black people have the same opportunities, because people view them differently, people are racist and sexist some outright, many subconsciously, and denying that would be insane, even if you make other arguments against affirmative action kind of programs, saying "women and blacks and homosexuals and poor people etc. are all treated equally now and have the same opportunities" is complete nonsense.
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I agree with you somewhat. In society how you look, your race, age, etc, determines a lot of things. That doesn't mean they need to make laws on top of that in the favor of a certain group. That is the problem.
People should be treated good by what they do, not because of their ethnicity or gender. And I'm a minority saying this.
Women get the upperhand in the vast majority of divorce cases. They have no contest divorce, they can cheat and still take a man's assets and the man may pay alimony for life.
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Well, I'd like xyz to elaborate, but obviously we have to differentiate between cases. Most women are financially dependent on the man, that doesn't mean they didn't build wealth together. As far as I know a man in similar circumstances would also receive alimony from his wife, or am I informed incorrectly.
What does seem to be true, and is very bothersome, is the favour of women in child cases, even if the husband is fully capable of performing the same task there seems to be a bias towards giving custody to the mother.
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It's not the fault of men that the woman is dependent on them though, they made that choice. Women love to say they're independent so they should show it.
Community property is one thing, but a man paying you off in t his day and age is unfair. Men rarely see any and the women usually don't pay if they have to. Which is why I'm not really for marriage in this country. There's no real benefit to men. Anything a man can get married he can get single.
Men don't get custody because men usually make more and can pay more. The state gets a slice of that too. They really need to weigh the cases out and not give a kid to one parent over another.
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Who me? Nah, I'm proud to stand up to my opinion and have the balls to express it.
I'm so blatantly misogynistic that I think women and men should be fifty/fifty and have equal laws? That's right, in our culture if you don't treat women like utter goddesses who do no wrong you're a misogynist.
If you have nothing to really contribute, why bother with weak trolling?
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Aug 30th, 2011 05:00 PM
It's good to have someone who disagrees with the norm to keep discussions going. Someone agrees with me. Wow. 
