I don't know if this was done before, if it was i apologize.
Why didn't Dooku betray Sidious when he was defeated by Anakin, when Sidious says God Anakin god. Kill him, kill him naw, why didn'tDooku say to Anakin that that the chancellor was a Sith lord(not to beg for his life, just to betray Sidious-it is the sith way).
In my opinion Dooku started out good, but was seduced by the dark side, he believed that Sidious was going to create a better society.
He thought the republic was to weak and corrupt and the jedi betrayedthemselves serving such institutions.
I think he didn't say anything, because he thought if he told Anakin he could kill Sidious and everything would be back to as it was before, the corrupt republic, not protecting its people.( not that Sidious was a better choice, Dooku just thought he was).
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the above plus i think he was in shock
not only had he been defeated he was also minus both hands AND his master had ordered his death
after a min for that to sink in he could have said something but by that time his head was bouncing off the floor
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forgive me if ive missed something in AOTC or ROTS but does Dooku every say that he knows Palpatine is Sideous
i know the war is orchestrated etc but i always found it a little confusing as i dont recall Dooku saying anything or appearing with Palps just references to a dark lord and master
if ive missed something form a que to kick my arse
Yeah Dooku knew the Chancellor's true identity, but i think i read somewhere that Dooku joined Sidious purely for political reasons, and so maybe he didn't really see a point in betraying him...but yeah, I'm sure shock was the main reason. Before Obi and Anakin reached the chamber, Sidious told him that he'd interfere if somehow Anakin got the upperhand..he sure wasn't expecting him to say "Kill him."
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but isnt that a rendevous with Sideous in an old abandoned building and not with Palpatine ??
there is no referance i believe in the movies where its indicated that Dooku knows Palpatine is Sideous
theres only this :
COUNT DOOKU: The truth. What if I told you that the
Republic was now under the control of the Dark Lords of the
Sith
this is not an obvious a referance to Palpatine because if it was Obi Wan would have told the Jedi Council and they would have confronted Palpatine at the end of AOTC
so to the casual viewer without any knowledge of SW it appears that Dooko doesnt know Palpatine is Sideous
maybe its in the novels but then again Anakin has a sleepover with the sandpeople in TPM and Kit Fistos smiling head ends up on Palpatines table in the ROTS novel so they arent reliable sources
Huh?????? That is lamest explanation ever. PALPATINE=SIDIOUS.... So at the end of AOTC Dooku (i.e. Tyrannus) meets Palpatine (i.e. Sidious). It's not like Palpy is such an obscure figure, he's the CHANCELLOR. It's like you meet George Bush in a robe, wouldn't you kinda figure that is him?
And we're not talking about the viewer, but about Dooku.
Yea, the casual viewer probably doesn't know, but Dooku did know his true identity, when general Grievous captured Palpatine and brought him to the generals flagship the Invisible Hand, Dooku has a talk with Palpatine, who tels him to kill Kenobi and capture Anakin and that he will intervene in case of defeat. Grievous didn't knew Palpatines true identity. Dooku new of Palpatines true identity almost from the beginning he contacted him.
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is the cartoon canon then??
i didnt know
fair enough
i know whos who but maybe Lucas could have abandoned the pointless trip to Chewies planet and actually gone out of his way to film that important scene instead of sticking it on a cartoon that appeared briefly on a kids tv channel leaving us with the lamest reveal in movie history
on the subject of recognition what about Nute and Rune
i know they are bit thick but they fell for it
i know hes a sith and they are big with the black and the menacing stuff but if everyone recognizes the dude with the robe why wear the hood up and talk in a VERY SINISTER VOICE with an Elvis Presley/Billy Idol curled lip
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mind you they couldnt tell the difference between Keira Knightley and Nat Portman
the t!ts or lack of should have gave the game away for Sabe
as for the novelisation i usually read an SW novel after the movie but after watching ROTS i gave it a miss
its hard to concentrate reading a book when you keep saying "why didnt you put this in George you ****ing idiot" after every turn of the page
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so they did all their dealings with Sideous via Holorgam contact
they sure had crappy eyesight then and cloth ears then
actually i dont think they have ears Neimodeans
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maybe they were just thick as ****
Rune: "dont you think that Lord Sideous looks and sounds a bit like a pissed off Senator Palpatine??"
Nute: "dont be ridiculous.....next thing youll be telling me the imprisoned Queen Amidala looks like the chick out of PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN!!!!"
Why, Sidious has a hod ever, you cant see his face completely. Maybe Neimoidians have a different eyesight, not to mention it would ruin the plot if they found out the truth.
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