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BCA Galactus vs CK

Galactus(Black Celestial Arc)

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Caos King

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It was my impression that the Chaos King was above Galactus at any level. I think he wins this with ease.


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clark kent rips him apart


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Chaos King all the way.


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since g was just a near brainless vaccum in that arc, i'll go with ck.


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since g was just a near brainless vaccum in that arc, i'll go with ck.
I dont know, he was in his way to eat the mulitiverse

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I dont know, he was in his way to eat the mulitiverse



No; Galactus was on his way to devour Omniverse if he didn't blink him self out and that universe/reality out of existences.

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No; Galactus was on his way to devour Omniverse if he didn't blink him self out and that universe/reality out of existences.

Which means nothing since he himself was going to die anyway. The only beings that would have survived were the beings that were protected by the Black Celestial's equipment/base.

Leaving the Black Celestial and his tech out of this, CK still wins. Since once Galactus died, CK would win since there would be nothing but the Void which is exactly what Chaos King is anyway.

No matter how you look at it, Chaos King wins.


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CK was garbage, Black celestial Galactus was a better story lol!

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CK was garbage, Black celestial Galactus was a better story lol!


Oh no doubt, Chaos War (like almost all of Marvel's recent "Big Events") sucked @$$. But Chaos King still wins this though.


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I never said he wouldn't, plus we never say what that version Galactus level would have been, now that Would be a good What If story.


CK contradict Oblivion origin, Abraxas hell everything!! It's pretty sad when the side stories are better than the main one, Hell Glory was better than CK.

What do expect from Pak who f**ked up Atum the God Eater, Gaea history and the Elder Gods erm

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CK contradict Oblivion origin, Abraxas hell everything!! It's pretty sad when the side stories are better than the main one, Hell Glory was better than CK.

What do expect from Pak who f**ked up Atum the God Eater, Gaea history and the Elder Gods erm

Yup, don't even get me started with that. I felt like taking a trip down to Marvel HQ and punching that fool in his throat. I just ignore it, that does wonders for my sanity smile


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I'm not impressed at all with CK.

BCA Galactus absorbs him easily.

That goes for any concept too, in that story, Galactus was unstoppable,
except for that moment of clarity he had when he stopped absorbing and did himself with the UN.

If Space-Time and everything in-between was going down,
I don't see why CK will be left out.


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I'm not impressed at all with CK.

BCA Galactus absorbs him easily.

That goes for any concept too, in that story, Galactus was unstoppable,
except for that moment of clarity he had when he stopped absorbing and did himself with the UN.

If Space-Time and everything in-between was going down,
I don't see why CK will be left out.


Maybe because before there even was a space/time/whatever there was nothingness/the Void/CK? He predates even Galactus' universe.

This isn't even a fight anyway seeing as how Galactus himself would have died leaving nothing except the Black Celestial and his base.


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Maybe because before there even was a space/time/whatever there was nothingness/the Void/CK? He predates even Galactus' universe.

He can't pre-date Galactus' universe cause that's the Infinity Being,
who always was and had no beginning.

Although, Oblivion makes the exact same boast:

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Oblivion is the embodiment of nothingness,
even the nothingness that proceeded the Multiverse.

Bio certified as the "embodiment of nothingness"

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(even references what Oblivion said about himself on panel)
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This isn't even a fight anyway seeing as how Galactus himself would have died leaving nothing except the Black Celestial and his base.

This isn't the story vs CK, it's Galactus and his capabilities during that arc.

That said, Space-Time was getting absorbed, CK is not above Eternity/Infinity.

At best, if we jam him into the hierarchy (out of nowhere)
at best, hyperbolically speaking, he's supposed to be equal.


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He can't pre-date Galactus' universe cause that's the Infinity Being,
who always was and had no beginning.

Although, Oblivion makes the exact same boast:

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Oblivion is the embodiment of nothingness,
even the nothingness that proceeded the Multiverse.

Bio certified as the "embodiment of nothingness"

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(even references what Oblivion said about himself on panel)

This isn't the story vs CK, it's Galactus and his capabilities during that arc.

That said, Space-Time was getting absorbed, CK is not above Eternity/Infinity.

At best, if we jam him into the hierarchy (out of nowhere)
at best, hyperbolically speaking, he's supposed to be equal.


What abilities? He was eating and he was out of control. He himself would have died and then the only beings left would be the Black Celestial and anyone in his base. That was the whole point of Tiamut altering Galactus like that. Also how does on consume the Void that predates all existence?

And regarding CK :
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/artic...s_war_interview
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CosmicBookNews: Can you tell us a bit about the Chaos King? With the Silver Surfer and Galactus involved, he must pose a pretty big threat, more so than we have seen of him as Mikaboshi? (Chaos King being Mikaboshi‘s true form finally revealed?) Galactus is said to be from before the Big Bang. Does the Chaos King predate that and is that why Galactus takes notice?

Fred Van Lente: Yes, you are correct – According to Japanese mythology, Amatsu-Mikaboshi is the Void that pre-dated all existence. All existence, even the universe that Galactus originates from.In his original, Terran form, he laid waste to Olympus and killed Zeus in the ARES mini-series.

Since then, and his departure from Earth in Secret Invasion, he has taken over the realm of the Skrull gods and has been engorging himself on the pantheons of other alien races – including the Shi’ar, as seen in Assault on New Olympus. So he is more powerful than ever before – arguably, he’s the most dire threat the Marvel Universe has ever faced.

Greg Pak: Most supervillains want to rule the world, or maybe the universe. Not return all existence to the chaos and darkness that existed before creation itself. The Chaos King is a whole new kind of threat.


That says it all right there.


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What abilities? He was eating and he was out of control. He himself would have died and then the only beings left would be the Black Celestial and anyone in his base. That was the whole point of Tiamut altering Galactus like that.

Actually, he consciously ate the Black Celestial,
and he consciously erased himself with the UN.

That aside, again,
you're using the story as the fighter, and not the character.

We are of course assuming this is a BCA G with control of what he can do,
or at the very least being able to use what he can do as a means to battle,
otherwise, what's the point of the thread?
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Also how does on consume the Void that predates all existence?

If he has a form to fight, he gets absorbed.

Otherwise, big G just looks at him in the void baffled at how CK is the void,
wow, and can't do anything cause he's just ... the ... void ... that's ... there.

Oblivion is supposed to be this "void" nothingness at the pre-Big Bang timeless emptiness.

Reed and the Alien Entity were there,
and so was Thanos before that,
and Genis/Entropy before that,
and Sise-Neg before that,
and guess what, the "void" that pre-dates the Marvel Universe is meaningless,
since it does nothing, is nothing, and hence has one purpose ... nothing.
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And regarding CK :
http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/artic...s_war_interview
That says it all right there.

Doesn't say anything for me,
unless it happens on panel, and then is corroborated in handbooks hopefully.

Like in Oblivion's case. smile


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"The Chaos King is a whole new kind of threat."

Eat a dick lol no he isn't.


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Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, he consciously ate the Black Celestial,
and he consciously erased himself with the UN.

That aside, again,
you're using the story as the fighter, and not the character.

We are of course assuming this is a BCA G with control of what he can do,
or at the very least being able to use what he can do as a means to battle,
otherwise, what's the point of the thread?

But that's just the thing, HE COULDN'T CONTROL HIMSELF. The only times he regained sanity were times he absorbed a lot of power instantly rather than the gradual way he was doing it. The first time it happened was when he ate the weakened Tiamut, Reed noticed his senses return to him then he was back in his ravenous phase. The second time it happened (when he was sane enough to use the Nullifier) was when they bombarded him with energy again and he regain sanity.

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If he has a form to fight, he gets absorbed.

Otherwise, big G just looks at him in the void baffled at how CK is the void,
wow, and can't do anything cause he's just ... the ... void ... that's ... there.

Oblivion is supposed to be this "void" nothingness at the pre-Big Bang timeless emptiness.

Reed and the Alien Entity were there,
and so was Thanos before that,
and Genis/Entropy before that,
and Sise-Neg before that,
and guess what, the "void" that pre-dates the Marvel Universe is meaningless,
since it does nothing, is nothing, and hence has one purpose ... nothing.


R E T C O N. The Chaos War story is the most recent so it retcons those past instances. Galactus is not absorbing the "Void" before there even was a Creation. That's ridiculous.

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Doesn't say anything for me,
unless it happens on panel, and then is corroborated in handbooks hopefully.

Like in Oblivion's case. smile

We'll see what happens if/when the new handbooks are released.

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"The Chaos King is a whole new kind of threat."

Eat a dick lol no he isn't.

That wasn't even the worst part. They said it was "Bigger than the Infinity Gauntlet" and "The greatest threat the Marvel Universe has yet faced."


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