How is experience even being debatable here? Valkryie is an asgardian goddess. She has been escorting the souls of the worthy deceased from the 9 worlds to valhalla for thousand and thousand of years now. Not to mention the fact that Asgard is almost at constant warfare with the trolls, the frost giants, etc.
But anyway, when has the current hawkgirl shown she has the possession of the Claw of Horus? Or control the four fundamentals of the universe(which only Onymar Synn afaik have shown)? Seriosly when has she ever used the claw using it that way?
And how is strength moot anyway. Supposed Valkrie dodge a mace attack from Hawkgirl and managed to slice it off, would you still think hawkgirl has a chance with her strength level?
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Well considering there have been many different Valkyrie with varying experience. Also even Hawkeye has battled similar foes...and won. You are greatly underestimating her. Well once again she was with the pharoh of Egypt thousands of years ago, while Valyrie served 600 to 1000 AD. Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't she not fly?
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Everyone still believes Carter is dead, and for some unknown reason these Pilgrim guy wants to kill Kendra. First he attacked her in the hospital and now in her home. Well she doesn't like that and she pulls out the Claw of Horus to do battle.
Well afaik, almost all topic concerning the Valkryie's are pertaining to brunhilde unless stated otherwise and not some of the other no-named Valkyrior. There's really no indication that she only started serving around that time and given the fact she operations on other battlefield other than midgard(616), that time may not necessarily translate to her debut as a valkryie.
I don't think she can fly either, otherwise she wouldn't need Aragorn.
Oh and the lives hawman and hawkwoman/girl led didn't always have them shown as warriors unlike Valkryie who has spend all her life as one.
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Hawkgirl is faster than Valkrie considering she has the mobility advantage with flight(travelling). Fighting speed? What made you think that? There's really no grounds for comparison for such.
And like i already asked, when has she used the claw of horus to she could control the four fundamentals of the universe? Heck AFAIK only Onymar synn has done such(might be wrong but kendra, when?)
Well actually from the handbook that was the date she started serving. That link which I just looked at is from the first set of Marvel universe handbooks.
Actually as stated more so than not, Hawkman and her make comments about how they can never truely find peice and in each life-time they will always fight Hath-Set. Valkayrie really hasn't done anything to impressive.
Hawkman has even kept up with Johnny Quick, and the nth metal as stated increase his strength, your mind and your speed.
She did it against Pilgrim she channeled his energy and powered the glove. That's what the gloves does. She hasn't used it many times, but that's what is stated about the glove. Plus the fact Hawkgirl and Hawkman were destined to don it as Dr.Fate forsaw.
As a valkryie assigned on midgard. Not necessarily the total amount of time she started fighting as a warrior.
And they didn't get instantly reborn on earth as adults were they? In fact, some didn't even used archaic weapons hawkman had. I can even make the case some of his incarnation didn't didn't even had any notable superpowered villains to fight with(with the exception of hath seth)
So in the end: Questionable foes, different experience in different methods, etc.
Once again travelling speed.
And in the end, the effects were merely the same effect done by the claw of horus in the past, punch hard. There goes manipulating the four fundamental forces of the universe. BTW where was it mentioned that what she did in the scan?
Also why are you bringing up a possible future scenario that hasn't happened so far?
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