Seriously though, Luke and Mara Jade took an overall thrashing against the Twi'lek and Lumiya. Granted, they eventually had to hold back because if they killed either they died too, but that wasn't anything that they have knowledge of at first. If the hubby and wife duo had such trouble with a pair, I don't see how LotF Luke takes a four on one solo.
In that fight Alima was hiding and then she distracted Luke, which allowed Lumya to strike Luke. Such specific circumstances can't be assumed here. And Rookwood said "The place is deserted and no is around.", which makes your assessment completely irrelevant.
Its possible Luke takes them..... He can easily overpower any of them in the Force, and is not exactly a slouch with a lightsaber, even at 60 something.
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The starting distance is 5 feet. I don't think even Luke can handle a dogpile attack from these fighters fast enough. Maul and Opress were able to duel well against Sidious.
If they survive the telekinetic blast wave, they fall to his saber...which might as well be twenty sabers wielded by Sith equal to Maul.
Dark Empire Sidious, stronger than ROTS Sidious, in a peak-human augmented clone body, failed to defeat Luke their second time around, even got his hand chopped of. And Luke still hadn't hit his prime. You really think Count Dooku and his minion can close the gap here??
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Last edited by KillaKassara on Feb 16th, 2013 at 06:30 AM
True, but Sidious at this point was stronger than Plagueis, who was stronger than Sidious had ever been before his death. Sidious was approaching Vitiate here, and he was a far better duelist than Vitiate, in a very strong clone body. Luke is insane skilled at dueling.
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Hm. I agree that Sidious was much stronger than Plagueis at this point ( I personally feel that Sidious could not have killed his master without tricking him at the end of Darth Plagueis).
I am not certain if he was a better duelist than Vitiate though. That belongs in another thread.
First time they fought at a Dark Side nexus.... second time Luke got some help from Leia...all in all I call it about even
Oh, and Luke wins this duel. He can pretty much dominate via the Force. It would be much like when the Zabraks were attacked by Sidious in their last duel or when Yoda humiliated Ventress. This trio will be force-raped. Then it leaves only Dooku and he will be defeated swiftly.
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No, he wasn't. According to audiobook she is simply observer.
The key reason is that in first fight he tried to use darkside, which he studied for few days from Palpatine and which simply doesn't suit his personality. In second fight he re-embraced lightside, which he studied and used for 10 years.
Luke gets stomped horribly here. But your assessment is still misplaced as cantina is empty. Also, It's four against one, not three, if you haven't noticed.
For all Luke's achievements he is not a Force raper. The only time, where he Force handled 4 opponents in one go was in Apocalypse book. But they were not disabled, just thrown down a pit and one of them still resisted. Not to mention that those Sith are weaklings in general.
Last edited by Arhael on Feb 18th, 2013 at 01:53 AM
It was a little late to edit. Regardless, glad you at least see the logic of how Luke falls.
Also, is it just me or were most of Luke's combat showings in LotF far weaker than they should have been compared to some of what he did between RotJ and the start of that series?
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