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Bardock VS Tien

Bardock takes on Tienshinhaan.

Let's say Tien is fighting him at the level of strength he was for the Saiyan Saga battle against Nappa/Vegeta. Can he take Bardock?

If one squashes the other, at what point in the series do you think they are pretty equal for a good bout?


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Bardock stomps SS Tien


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Bardock has a power level of around 10,000 before he died. Nappa curb stomped Tien with less than half of that.

Saiyan Saga Tien gets butt phucked and hard


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Yeah, Bardock's PL was approaching 10,000 during the film. Tien's PL during the Saiyan Saga was a scant 1,830.


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Oh is that really the case? I always figured Nappa would be stronger than Bardock, considering the whole "saiyan elite" thing. That's not the case? What Tien could take Bardock then?


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After training with King Kai in Otherworld. Although by then, his PL was logically far in excess of 10k... /shrug


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Originally posted by Quincy
Oh is that really the case? I always figured Nappa would be stronger than Bardock, considering the whole "saiyan elite" thing. That's not the case? What Tien could take Bardock then?


Yeah Bardock was far and above most elites due to him constantly being in battle.


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On that note, the end-scene in which Bardock shreds through hundredS of Frieza's troops, before reaching Frieza himself, was epic. Equally as epic was Frieza wiping out Bardock+all of his own troops+the Planet Vegeta.... With a damn finger-ball.

Not only was that a badass moment for Bardock, but it also makes you realize how utterly insignificant everyone was in comparison to [base form] Frieza. At the time, the closest PL to his own was probably Zarbon's, which was still laughably insignificant next to Frieza's base power... Never mind transformations.


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Dodoria wrecked Bardock in the movie right?


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I always loved that scene. Frieza was always one of my favs in DBZ. I just wish we got to see more of him and his empire.


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Dodoria wrecked Bardock in the movie right?


And his whole squad. His power was around 12,000 above Bardock


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Dodoria wrecked Bardock in the movie right?
Yes. Dodoria's PL was 22,000. Bardock's was <10,000.

...And Bardock's crew were much less powerful than himself. They were stomped by Dodoria's elite, who, in turn, were stomped by Bardock himself.

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I always loved that scene. Frieza was always one of my favs in DBZ. I just wish we got to see more of him and his empire.
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It would have been awesome to see just how encompassing Frieza's(and King Cold's) empire was. I'm sure it was MASSIVE, given that they were several orders of magnitude more powerful than ANYONE else at the time. It would have also been nice to know how many races/species/worlds Goku(well, technically Trunks) liberated upon killing them.


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You folks know a lot about power levels.


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Yes. Dodoria's PL was 22,000. Bardock's was <10,000.

...And Bardock's crew were much less powerful than himself. They were stomped by Dodoria's elite, who, in turn, were stomped by Bardock himself.


Ha I forgot it was Dodoria's crew that did the heavy lifting there.

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It would have been awesome to see just how encompassing Frieza's(and King Cold's) empire was. I'm sure it was MASSIVE, given that they were several orders of magnitude more powerful than ANYONE else at the time. It would have also been nice to know how many races/species/worlds Goku(well, technically Trunks) liberated upon killing them.


I always wanted a spin off about other beings under their rule. Not more Saiyans but maybe the Ginyu Force or some other planet filled with people that have no choice but to serve the mighty Frieza


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In the episode of Bardock (Which is canon from memory.) It reveals that Bardock didn't die, and instead was sent to the past, and was the first Super Saiyan.
He was the one that made Frieza's family fear the Saiyan's.
Super Saiyan Bardock has a power level of about 500,000 by the way.

Edit. Or at least was the first recorded Saiyan.


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Non canon


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Non canon


You sure? Could've swoon Akira was the one that did it? confused

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Iirc he helped with the idea, but he also helped a little with GT and that's non canon too


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Iirc he helped with the idea, but he also helped a little with GT and that's non canon too

He only did a few drawings here and there for GT.
I'm pretty sure he actually helped with the story for EOB, which makes it a higher level canon then GT anyway.

Its only N-canon when Akira contradicts it or says so
Edit. Could be wrong though. 'Shrug.'

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